Harassment Of A Mosque In Dambulla, Total Shame

Dambulla, a beautiful town. Photo by Photosightfaces


Muslims are Sri Lanka’s invisible minority. In Colombo they are one of the biggest communties, as they are in many coastal towns. In Dambulla, however, they are more of a minority minority, and un-Buddhist forces there are protesting and calling for the demolition of a mosque (Ceylon Today).

I say un-Buddhist because the protests, despite being led by monks, display none of the compassion or understanding of Buddhisms. Monks should be meditating, not making territorial claims.

The Masjidul Khaira mosque has been in Dambulla for over 50 years and, truth be told, even if it was built yesterday, Sri Lankan Muslims have a right to worship as much as anybody else. While I am proud that Sri Lanka preserves the Theravada Buddhist faith and practice, this is not the practice, and it is in bad faith. It’s actually a total shame.

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2012-04-20 23:15:31

Agreed. How we try to tell the world the Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country , there is many that doesn’t actually know the religion or rather have a low level mind set.

“You should not insult other religions while respecting your own religion. You should respect some factors of other religions too. One who is doing this, helps to the development of own religion and helps other religions as well.

One who is insulting other religions while respecting own religion, destroys the development of own religion. Therefore, unity is important.” – http://www.buddhist.20m.com/

Zain
2012-04-22 23:30:30

Look at this video, what is the Budd shit do in this country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxWCNB6k84

 
 
Lankan Thinker
2012-04-20 23:26:21

Well put Indi. It is indeed a shame that this type of intolerance is being fronted by Buddhist monks.

 
Gungan
2012-04-21 00:35:24

Total shame indeed. We are far from any reconciliation with the minorities. Interestingly it’s the govt and army that’s building a barrage of new Buddhist temples and Buddha statues all over north. Double standards?

 
Sameer
2012-04-21 01:53:17

Srilanka is a multy ethnic country in which muslims have right to practice their religion where ever they are,it is mentioned inthe constitution but the sihala urmya is the main cause for the abondening the friday prayer,

 
2012-04-21 03:07:21

[...] should be meditating, not making territorial claims”, comments Indi.ca on the protests by Monks calling for demolition of a mosque in Dambulla. Tweet [...]

 
2012-04-21 08:51:40

A follow up on the Anuradhapura, incident?

http://transcurrents.com/news-views/archives/4126

What happened to the perpetrators of that? As long as they think they can get away with it, they will continue to do it.

ps. Please reword your title it looks very awkward. Harassment is of people, not of buildings, in my view.

 
 
damith
2012-04-21 09:23:37

does anyone have a reply to this …some muslims in kurunagala has brutaly kaptured and taken some very old buddist monk caves and they have destroyed what was inside the caves like the ancient art’s and poems of buddha… from the government they have put signs that this is sacred and place of archaeological site owned by government…is this fare what you muslims are doing who will curse for this. everyday people will not keep there moth shut …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbFaTpCHDaw

Roshan
2012-04-21 15:45:50

i’m glad you brought up this issue about kuragala. it only serves to show your complete ignorance about the events at this place, and your gullibility to something that’s put on you tube.

The muslim shrine at kuragala has been a place of worship for some muslims here for more than a century. it is not something that was built overnight, as the racists in this video try to proclaim. it is the exact same thing these racists are doing in dambulla, the mosque existed before any proclamation of this being a sacred site. see below link and read carefully.

http://sundaytimes.lk/980719/plus2.html

next time before you shoot from the top of your voice , i recommend you research on the issue better

dindon
2012-04-23 20:07:39

Muslims do not respect archaeology. They have built toilets and hotels destroying all valuable archaeological sites near Mekkah.

The Dambulla monk should have spent a few thousand rupees and sent a bulldozer to proclaim this land without tarnishing his name in front of media.

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muslim man
2012-04-24 10:23:58

Srilankan peoples begs wihmuslims. saudi arabia always give money to srilanka. for the srilanka improvement. Sinhalese are wrong

 
More-MAD
2012-10-22 23:11:29

Saudi gov giving money not for ‘free’. all have political movements. Don’t speak nonsons! In other hand, by taking loans from other countries, doesn’t men we have to take their sh*ts too! All Muslims think as Muslim countries helped for the war SL Gov and ppl should convert to Islam! Mad crazy idi*ts! Where were you ppl when LTTE fight with SL Gov? Which mosqe spread, helped for SL forces? Did you ask forign gov’ts to provide arms? bullsh*t! now you all are giving talks! When LTTE ask to leave from Jaffna why didn’t those so called ‘Islamic’ Gov’s with you? Shame on you muslims!

 
 
 
 
2012-04-21 09:59:13

Damith

that is irrelevant.

If that took place. it was wrong and the offenders need to be punished according to the law.

Mob violence is equally wrong.

tastyjujubes
2012-04-21 14:40:56

I don’t think it is “irrelevant” per se because while things like these are hidden away in the English language press, they are provided coverage in the Sinhala language press and people do get irritated/angry when they read such things. When ancient Buddhist archaeological sites are vandalized like in Dighavapi or Kurunagala, when the Pakistani cricket team is supported over the Sri Lankan cricket team publicly, when animals are slaughtered in the open on streets and in backyards despite opposition, when Sri Lankan maids are abused and have nails driven into them, or are arrested on charges of “witchcraft” and face beheading [ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/19/saudi-arabia-beheading-woman-withcraft
] , and these stories are given local coverage, some people would develop hostility towards Islam/Muslims, rightly or wrongly. As more and more of these stories are given coverage, the pot can boil over.

Roshan
2012-04-21 15:47:38

See my reply to Damith above on the kuragala site.

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2012-04-21 19:04:51

tastyjujbes,

It is not possible to justify one wrong with another, that was my point.

Is the story about Muslims descerating caves true, to begin with? It sounds highly unlikely to me. Had it happened we would have had a lot of hue and cry, of which there was none.

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tastyjujubes
2012-04-21 19:16:30

I agree that it is not possible to justify one wrong with another, but what Roshan put forward is not “irrelevant” because coverage of such issues does take place in the Sinhala language press and it does reach a good portion of the Sinhalese public. So rightly or wrongly it does affect the their perception of Islam/Muslims.

 
 
 
 
khan
2012-04-21 14:02:09

foolish peoples only know to broke the mosque & drank & dance front of musical stage.. (like frog in the well)

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-21 14:11:28

I am in complete agreement with what you’ve said Indi. I think it is quite shameful to see this happening, especially if the mosque has been there for quite a while without any problems. I’ve always felt that the Muslims and the Sinhalese have got on with each other quite well the given differences in religion, language and culture. So it is quite unfortunate to see incidents like this taking place which will no doubt be magnified by provocateurs on both sides. It is important to remember that unlike in some other parts of the world, Islam came to Sri Lanka in peace and harmony and has always been given space to flourish by kings as well as successive Sri Lankan governments.

However, I must also say that I do find it difficult to sympathize completely with the aggrieved party here and with those Muslims who bring up the issue of freedom of religion. This is mainly because I find their stances rather hypocritical. It is quite unfortunate, but the fact is that non-Muslims are granted very little, if any religious rights in countries with a majority Muslim population. In some countries like Saudi Arabia and the Maldives, absolutely no religions other than Islam are allowed. To be a Maldivian, one has to be a Muslim according to the constitution. Yet I hear very little protest from the Muslim community about this lack of religious freedom, and the lack of respect given to non-Islamic faiths. Now this is anecdotal and from personal experience, but when the Bamian Buddhas were being destroyed in Afghanistan several Sri Lankan Muslims justified the attacks to me saying that they were “just rocks” but the same good folks were up in arms over cartoon depictions of the Prophet Muhammad (forwarding protest emails and petitions to sign) and the desecration of the Quran (I wondered cynically – couldn’t they think of it as “just paper”? applying the same logic they applied to the Bamian Buddhas). To be honest, I don’t think these double standards are lost on many Sri Lankans regardless of what faith they follow.

Some may argue with some merit that the Muslims of Sri Lanka have nothing to do with what other Muslims do in other parts of the world, but the fact is that the Muslims of Sri Lanka have chosen the Muslim identity as their over arching identity. This is how they have chosen to identify themselves – as being followers of Islam. So what other Muslims do will have an affect in Sri Lanka as well because it is the term Muslim that is used (I do think things would be different if the term “Moor” was used instead of “Muslim” but this is not the case).

This is of course not to say that there is no extremism and racism amongst the Sri Lankan Muslim community. The truth, unfortunately, is quite the opposite. However, extremism and racism, as we all know, are found in all of Sri Lanka’s ethnic communities so it is certainly not unique to Sri Lankan Muslims. But I think that extremism within the Sri Lankan Muslim community has a relatively resent onset and this has mainly been brought about by an austere brand of Islam called Wahabism that has been imported from Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, it is this brand of Islam that has been spreading at a rapid rate among the Sri Lankan Muslim community and which, I think, has led to a deteriorating relationship between the majority community and the minority community – just like how aggressive evangelical Christianity was at the root of religious conflict a few years ago.

As a result of Wahabism there is growing intolerance among Sri Lankan Muslim followers towards non-Muslims and non-Muslim faiths, as well as other sects of Islam. Non Muslims (and followers of other Islamic sects) are routinely referred to as “kaffirs” which is a derogatory term and means “infidels/non believers”. Followers of Wahabism are encouraged to dress conservatively (women completely covered head to foot, men should wear the skullcap and grow a long beard), mixing of the sexes is strongly discouraged, ‘idol worship’ is regarded as one of the biggest sins (and so a hostile attitude is fostered towards Buddhists and Hindus), singing of the Sri Lankan national anthem is prohibited (as it is “shirk” – worshiping something another God other than Allah), birth control is strongly discouraged (it is considered to be un-Islamic as Allah will provide for all), rapid expansion of existing mosques, and the building of new Wahabi mosques is followed with zeal. Add to this mixture stories of Muslim communities desecrating ancient Buddhist archaeological sites in places like Ampara (Dighavapi) and Anuradhapura and you will be able to see how sparks may fly.

To be honest, I don’t think many non-Muslim Sri Lankans – who might be unaware of all of this – would deny that there certainly has been an explosion in ‘conservative Islam’ in Sri Lanka, with more and more Muslim women visibly covering themselves up completely even in the searing heat and huge, gleaming mosques popping up in many towns thanks to Saudi Arabian money. I do think that there certainly should be complete religious freedom in Sri Lanka, but this has to come with a caveat of responsibly.

To finish off, I hope I haven’t insulted anyone or demonised anyone here; if I have done so I apologise. My aim was to provide some insight as to what may be contributing to sectarian conflict in Sri Lanka like the one mentioned in Indi’s post.

sach
2012-04-22 21:58:53

your argument has no basis. The muslims in SL are different from the muslims in afganistan or KSA. why do u try to group them altogether? The ppl in Afganistan are a tribal set of ppl. The muslims in SL (majority) are a progressive well mannered ppl. Even if what u said is true what happened in Dambulla is very very wrong. It should be condemned by every peace loving buddhist in SL. The present environment of high religousity in SL is bad as a multi religous country. A high dose of religion is a recipe for disaster. SL should become secular.

And last as a buddhist i would convey my appologies to every muslim who are heart broken because of this. Lets not let these psychopants to destroy sinhala muslim brotherhood. :)

tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 15:20:17

Sach, I do think my argument has some basis. The fact is that the Sri Lankan Moors (proper ethnic term) have chose the term “Muslim” as their overarching identity. Besides the fact that this is not an ethnic term even though it is used as such in Sri Lanka, this ties them to other Muslims in other parts of the world, rightly or wrongly. Because all people read is the term “Muslim.” So when newspapers report about Islamic fundamentalism, Muslim extremists, attacks by Muslim militants on Buddhists in Southern Thailand, Muslim extremists in Afghanistan blowing up Buddha statues, Sri Lankan women to be beheaded by Islamic Law etc a tie is made between the two. Now this may be unfair, but it does happen.

Your claim that Muslims in SL are progressive is debatable as would be the same claim about the Sinhalese and/or the Tamils. I don’t think any of the communities in Sri Lanka are progressive, at least in the sense I think of it. I don’t think I would be too off the mark in stating that education-wise, the Sri Lankan Muslim community does seem to lag behind the Sinhalese and the Tamils. This may have something to with cultural issues but I may be wrong here. The Sri Lankan Muslim community is also, in my opinion, the most conservative of all the ethnic/religious groups, with the least freedom granted to women. Also, the vast majority of intellectuals in Sri Lanka seem to come from the Sinhalese and/or Tamil community.

What happened in Dambulla is wrong in the sense that it appeared to involve violence and vigilantism. However, the people there have all the right to protest if they wish – even if it is against a mosque.

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khan
2012-04-21 14:13:08

The Future dambulla Muslim mosque will come like one of this.. sure sure

https://www.google.lk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=2br&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&psj=1&q=beautiful%20mosque&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=a3GST4OTJYisrAfG0oGcBQ&biw=1366&bih=598&sei=cXGST_G8C4-yrAfVpeXyBA#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Vcr&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=np&tbm=isch&q=beautiful+mosque+in+the+world&revid=437144258&sa=X&ei=dnGST5XUCcXsrAf3saD8BA&ved=0CFQQgxY&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=7fbb793aa4f11533&biw=1366&bih=598

 
2012-04-21 15:33:05

I agree with JP, in that mob violence is wrong (where ever it takes place) and should be condemned. But it is also worrying that when religious extremism targets Buddhism, buddhists or their places of worship it seems to be shrugged off – even to the extent of lightheartedly telling the buddhists (who are justifiably hurt and upset by these incidences) to practice “tolerance”. This incident has been commented on by Indi and by several other websites/blogs on Kottu and elsewhere. I don’t see equal coverage given to vandalization etc. of Buddhist sites.

The double standards bother me.

2012-04-21 19:07:49

Angel,

have there been any such instances?

Dee
2012-04-23 14:15:17

Yes, in Arugam Bay and some areas in the NE. Ancient sites razed to the ground by villages… Just an example.

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sach
2012-04-23 14:57:11

If that is the case the problem lies in the gov and ministry of archeology. They are responsible for safeguarding these sites. Many sinhala ppl vandalize ancient sites in search of treasures. But u people keep mum on those things. Why is this difference?

Lets say what u ppl say is true and muslims have done something wrong (assumption ) but is that the way to behave? what kind of an act and a protest is this? SL is a multi faith country and anything related to religion stirres things up unfortunately. In such a scenario those monks and organizers of the protest should think about that. If they think they are victimised they can go to courts and find a solution as a civilised society.

When looking at what these ppl do, it is quite clear that their aim was a different thing. They want to disturb the religous harmony in the country and set a sinhalese vs muslim conflict. I think in next parlimentary elections the forces responsible for the above would become candidates. They are laying a platform for their future politics. This is the dangerous scenario.

Another thing i have to say is these things happen because our system in SL is rotten. Our democracy is destroyed, freedom of speech is non existant (except on web), there is no intellectuals to guide the people just wandibattayain of the gov. These things make a country weak. In such a situation anybody can use the prevailing situation for their own advantage.

 
 
 
 
veedhur
2012-04-21 15:52:08

I think people are commenting here without understanding the role of the state in protecting Buddhism in the Country.

If I understand it properly, from what a friend (Buddhist) told me, rightly or wrongly, but legally, in Sri Lanka when an area is declared a sacred area (Punya Bhumi), other structures (business premises, houses, other religious premises) can be removed and people evicted.

It is akin to acquiring land for development, albeit in this case spiritual development.

This I guess is what the monks (who obviously are acting like thugs) are claiming, since the area was declared so circa 1982 and re-inforced two years ago.

There have been a number of instances in the past too – in anuradhapura 1958, muthiyangana 1977 etc.

Those opposed can claim this is sort of Spiritual High Security Zones, but that is what it is.

Of course the Monks can solve this by being understanding, tolerating, sensitive and Buddhist. But clearly they are not, they are Sri Lankan!

 
niyaz
2012-04-21 16:48:45

Dear Tastyjujubes,

Your comments on some of the happenings in the Muslim world is totally out of context. You take extreme examples to give very slanted view of the entire community.
The Muslims have a very honourable history here of more than a 1000 yrs of which more than 950 yrs the majority Singhalese had consistant attacks from many intruders. The only visitors who never made any attempt on this land but stood consistantly and strongly with them were the Muslims. Even as late as the Northern problems they supported the call for North East power only upto separate state and paid the price of being driven out. The earliest and the largest community they believe have to take the place of the Elder Brother.
Your examples of Saudi Arabia and Maldives who have consistantly maintained no nationality for any outsiders and because these countries have been 100% Muslims even at their worst times. No foreign Muslim ever gets nationality and even by marraige its a long process. What about Millions domiciled into the other Muslim countries? You state about the few who justified the Bamian statue isssue but fail to mention the country wide protests against it.
Isn’t there an added zeal of adherence of Bhuddists with a lot more participation and larger temples? Unless you are an atheist why should it bother us? You have also tried to twist the meaning of Kafir ( non- believer) and extremist labels to any attempt to follow their religion the way they believe it. I would like to know how singing the national anthem becomes worshipping and who has banned it? As far as I know almost all sing it. When the mosques fill up don’t they have to be expanded?
To finish it off let me mention that hate mongering and creating ill will among the different segments of Sri Lanka is the last thing that Mother Lanka needs at a time when the international community is also vawering their strong support. Here again the Muslim World was what stood strongly with us.

Regards

tastyjujubes
2012-04-21 17:45:22

Niyaz, I accept that Muslims have been a part and parcel of Sri Lanka for many centuries, and that the relationship between the Sinhalese and the Muslims has been for the most part characterized by peace and harmony. I also accept that the Muslim community has, especially in the colonial times, stood against foreign invasions. I also do not doubt the contributions of the Sri Lankan Muslims towards the country, or the richness of their culture and religion which has enhanced the diversity that exists in the country. This certainly must be appreciated by all Sri Lankans, regardless of their religion or ethnicity.

Saudi Arabia and the Maldives may be extreme examples, but I think the situation is quite similar in other Muslim majority countries such as Pakistan, Egypt, Malaysia etc. For example, in Pakistan and Bangladesh, the Hindu population has dropped significantly since those countries gained independence. Those who ‘blaspheme’ the Prophet Muhammad receive the death penalty, apostasy is punishable by death. To be honest, I do not know of one Muslim majority country that provides the same religious freedom for non-Muslims that the Muslim community enjoys in Sri Lanka being in a Buddhist majority country. Even the Ahmadiyas have more freedom in Sri Lanka, and they are actively persecuted in many Muslim countries despite forming a sect within Islam. I do think it is quite telling that there is signifcant Muslim-on-Muslim violence (mainly Sunni vs Shia) in many Muslim countries which goes to show how intolerant some of these countries are not only towards non-Islamic religions but also towards fellow Muslims who many be following a different sect of Islam.

Also, no country or society can ever claim to be “100%” followers of a particular religion. It is impossible. Not everyone can follow a single ideology and believe in it completely. That is like saying that everyone in the United States has to be a Capitalist, or that everyone in China must necessarily be Communist. In a given society there wil l be those who are religious, those who are not, those who believe in some bits and not in the others, those who mix and match belief systems etc etc. It is also not acceptable to legislate like in Maldives saying that everyone must necessarily be Muslim. It is not true. I have met Maldivian Christians in Sri Lanka who keep their faith hidden because of the repercussions they would face back home. Isn’t it strange that just a few kilometres away from Sri Lanka, in a country with a Muslim majority there is absolutely zero religious freedom? Similarly what if there are Saudi Arabian Christians? Should they not have their religious rights respected?

The term ‘Kaffir’ is used in a derogatory manner. As I have mentioned earlier, it is used (not exclusively), by those following the Wahabi sect to refer to not only non-Muslims, but also Muslims following other sects of Islam. Recently this term was used on a Muslim radio programme in Sri Lanka, and some Muslims protested against the use of this term as well. The Wahabis do have a problem with the singing of the Sri Lankan national anthem. This is because, in their opinion it constitutes Shirk: ( http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/srilankamuslims/message/3438 ) The Wahabis do not expand mosques out of necessity, they expand them out to show their dominance, their power over not only the non-Muslims, but the other Muslim sects as well. That is why many of the Wahabi mosques, especially the new ones, are clearly expensive constructions that stand in contrast to the more humble mosques of traditional Muslims.

I do agree with your last statement completely.

More-MAD
2012-10-22 23:35:01

Nice words. But Islamic truth is not what you see. Anyone who is not Muslim is a kafeer and not to be choosen as close friend! You do read the koran and Mohomed’s teachings! For any Muslim, they can’t be stand that they are not violence etc. They are part of Islamic jihad as all have to be align with Islamic teaching. Islamic teaching is Koran and hadeths. Though Sharia law is not practicable fortunately in our constitution, to be a Muslim, all muslims should OK for those teachings regardless of their own view commented here n there. So these issues are not personal matters, Those are teaching of Islam! According to Muslims, extreams mean those who well know the religion! So what they want? they want all head in this earth to be Muslims!
If Muslims argue that they are peaceful and are with SL community, why didn’t they protest against when Nepal Muslims destroy Bhudist temples? They advice to Monk as they are are perfect blue prints. But at the end of the day they drive to Islamic jihad knowing or not knowing. Our NGO idio’ts and facke peace keepers hurray for such things as they only know war is wrong. But they never know war is chosen as a last option. So then who is racist?

And also Islam doesn’t mean ‘Peace’! It was used to highlight after the terrorism labled with Islam. If you don’t know Islam go and get to know! They can lie for their jihad too!

FYI: Read Bukhari->Book 4->Volume 54->Hadith 445

Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet said, “Gabriel said to me, ‘Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire).” The Prophet asked. “Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?” He replied, “Even then.”

So?

(What a religion! I know…. now another Muslim come and comment non-authentic hadese! ha ha. )

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sach
2012-04-22 22:01:36

thanks for that comment u talk sense

 
 
2012-04-21 17:17:02

sinhala HIGANA JATHIYAWA APE RATEN NETHTHATAMA NETHI KARALA DANNA ONE

Musnad
2012-04-21 22:58:48

muzni.Dont be a fool and be par with the sinhala terrorists and spoil the name of Muslims.

2012-04-21 23:13:05

Seeing as Muslims are known the world over for being a peaceful, calm, non-violent and gentle people???

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Rakees Mohomed
2012-04-21 17:59:58

Muslims in Sri Lanka should teach a good lesson to Sinhalese mother-fuckers. They were ass fucked by the Tamils for 30 years. Unfortunately Tamils couldn’t complete their mission due to their own divisions and back-stabbing. We Muslims should start our Jihad militarily. And you Sinhalese Modayas mark my words that we Muslims are not like Tamils. We have proved who we are wherever we have started our Jihad militarily. Afghanistan is the latest example. And mind you there are lot people around us to support.

lumi
2012-04-21 18:27:53

please go and fight in afganistan, SLA is too big for jihad

Muslim Gorilla
2012-04-22 00:39:07

We no need 30 years, just 30 days enough to kill 500,000 SL Army because we are Muslims and we are the masters for gorilla war. If you are not sure, ask the word.

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2012-04-22 08:57:25

Muslims? Masters of Gorilla War? Are you kidding me? WE ARE THE MASTERS OF GORILLA WAR! Don’t mess with the Silverbacks, yo!

 
2012-04-23 15:52:12

Lol.

 
More-MAD
2012-10-22 23:47:03

We saw how Muslims ran when the Tamils asked to leave from Jafna :P Poor pigs!

 
 
 
2012-04-21 19:09:47

This guy sounds fake, someone trying to stir up things.

 
 
lumi
2012-04-21 18:26:58

I think religion will be irrelevant at some point …maybe within the next 200-300 years? every religion has its peak, Islam is definitely peaking right now. Buddhism and Hinduism peaked long before and so did Christianity during the colonial times.

I can’t help it notice but that muslims in non-muslim countries are using freedom of religion to expand islam through accommodation, conversion and coercion. But its the opposite in muslim countries, freedom of religion is unthinkable for non-muslims.

The way the monks have carried out their message was deplorable. Didn’t the president open up a mosque in Nuwara Eliya?

 
2012-04-21 18:35:53

There is a huge Tamil Hindu community flourishing in Malaysia as I could see during my visits there. A Sinhala Buddhist Professor from the Peradeniya University who was the UNESCO director in Pakistan for a few years made a presentation last year. According to him Lord Buddhas trail through Pakistan is larger in Area than that of India and all the historic sites are better maintained than some of the historic sites over here. There is ac video clip with the Pakistani embassy.
Mirzan and Rakees please maintain dignity. Islamic Da’wa demands that from us.

tastyjujubes
2012-04-21 19:12:45

Niyaz, some links which you may find interesting:

Pressure on multi-faith Malaysia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm

Pakistan’s Buddha Statues Under Attack
http://asiasociety.org/countries/conflicts/pakistans-buddha-statues-under-attack

And in our neighboring Maldives:

Mob storms National Museum, destroys Buddhist statues: “A significant part of our heritage is lost now”
http://tinyurl.com/7qkgm8n

n
2012-04-21 20:02:36

Crappy stuff done in the name of Islam for sure…the thing is I live in Sri Lanka. I’m a bit more concerned about how we as Sri Lankans treat multiculturalism. A protest about a 50 year old mosque is beyond stupid. We should be better than that.

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2012-04-21 21:58:44

Okay… so how does Islam view multiculturalism? How does Islam view other religions or followers of other religions?

 
n
2012-04-21 22:36:42

Good to know that you completely missed my point. Reread my comment, slowly and maybe out loud?

 
Peaceful Muslim
2012-04-21 22:57:50

Dear Sir, (Deltoid)

Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believes in Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh) THE OLD TESTAMENT.

We greet our brothers in humanity, with Salam….And no Muslim is a Muslim if he don’t believe JESUS (pbuh) and the Maitreya Buddha… and also The indo description A malecha….

Al-Qur’an 20:25-28
Greet you in the same manner as Jesus (pbuh) greeted in Hebrew Luke 24:36
‘Sholam alay kum’
or Islamic greeting in Arabic Assalaamu alai kum
both meaning ‘Peace be on you’.

We Muslims believe in Maitreya Buddha…
1. Buddha prophesised the advent of a Maitreya:
 
A) Almost all Buddhist books contain this prophecy. It is in Chakkavatti Sinhnad Suttanta D. III, 76:
B) According to the Gospel of Buddha by Carus pg. 217 and 218 (From Ceylon sources):

According to Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8.
“A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, “I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents.”

According to Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas has prophesised:

Please don’t look at 9/11 or Osama as Muslim teachings… They are private actors of CIA. Please YouTube for truth Check out this Video on you Tube and many more on NEW WORLD ORDER….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Peaceful Muslim

 
2012-04-21 23:05:52

If you don’t know the answer then say so instead of trying to save face by being patronizing. but i think it’s a legit question. You said “I’m a bit more concerned about how we as Sri Lankans treat multiculturalism,” and the Muslims we’re talking about here are Sri Lankans, aren’t they? So how does Islam, and its followers the Muslims view multiculturalism? Does Islam promote multiculturalism and respect for other faiths and followers of other faiths? Surely this is an important issue if we are addressing how Sri Lankans treat multiculturalism. \

if Muslims were the majority in Sri Lanka, what do you think would be the situation of religious freedom in the country?

 
2012-04-23 15:55:16

What does it matter how the Muslims would do it, or how Muslims would do it elsewhere? We are not Muslims, so why should we behave with the intolerance we despise?

 
 
2012-04-22 07:44:09

Intolerance is reprehensible and violence is (or should be) illegal.

While the incidents cited above are depressing I think we need to ensure that this country does not descend into the depths of Pakistan, Malaysia or the Maldives. Perpetrators need to be brought to justice so that a message is sent to others who may have similar ideas. Unfortunately the Anuradhapura incident (see my comment above for links to the story) for which no one was punished (to my knowledge) tends to give comfort to the extremists, that they can probably get away with it.

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ajith
2012-04-21 20:21:36

any parayou kata vagana itp
mayv rajapksha karanavada
we dont have to fight these are things done by politions
they create trable in religus
make a nother jafna we are have to be in peace loving people
others are paid to fight on these isuues

 
wal_thambiya
2012-04-21 20:22:27

has anyone heard of the Kuragala muslim invasion, and destroying archeological property?? they should be banished to Afganistan!

Roshan
2012-04-22 17:01:05

I pity your lack of knowledge. you are just another racist ( as your nickname clearly portrays) bent on creating communal disharmony.
like the case of dambulla, the muslim shrine in kuragala is hundreds of years old, and existed before any proclamation of the land. please read below .

http://sundaytimes.lk/980719/plus2.html

the muslims in kuragala, are the ones who should be pretty angry about sinhalese trying to claim places of historical worship.

it is because of dodos and gullible fools like you that we are still grappling with trying to create a prosperous and peaceful nation.

 
sach
2012-04-22 22:04:57

shut up man, u racist! indi remove posts like this

 
Haniff
2012-04-27 22:43:45

Yes, this is something outside Lord Buddha’s philosophy. I’m a converted Buddhist. Practiced Islam as a born Musli and now went refuge after the tripple gems Buddha, Shamma and Sangha. Buddhism is a different phylosophy. Sri Lankans think something different. Land, place, buildings or statues, flowers and hidden treasure are immaterial for Buddhist philosophy. This should be well understood by so cold Buddhist people of Sri Lanka. Lord Buddha was the greatest teacher in the universe. Buddha did not depend on these symbols. I feel pity on those Buddhists who egg the removal of the mosque. Buddhism is a universal religion.

 
 
shammi
2012-04-21 20:45:45

Saw a bit of the incident over the news. The monk was behaving like Mervyn Silva, inciting people, threatening something dire on his next visit and bullying the divisional secretary. True Buddhists will be ashamed. The prime minister, for once talking some sense said the incident coming up so suddenly seemed fishy. Hope they get this business sorted out soon.

True Kandy Buddhist
2012-04-21 22:35:26

Me too. The Monks proved they are from the low cast “DOWN SOUTH”…. Ashamed. Political gimmick,
FYI! our PM studied at Gampola Zahira College. He is an old boy of Gampola Zahira.

True Buddhist from Kandy

shammi
2012-04-22 23:02:57

Caste! True Kandy moron.

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2012-04-21 21:18:29

Friends,

Lord Buddha once said “Don’t accept something, only due to it is coming through generations or because it is routine. If you understand yourself, this is good and correct. Accept it. If you understand yourself, this is bad and incorrect. You shouldn’t accept or do it. ”

Can someone help me to find out the book written by Lord Buddha, in which he says that I am God or worship me. I was told that Lord Buddha is against idol worshipping, is it true? If so, Why do we have so many at every three wheel stands..?

Middle Mind

n
2012-04-21 21:48:31

Because that’s the convenient form of buddhism that the majority of sinhala buddhists like to practice. You can do whatever you want, just worship the statue and give dhane to fat, lazy priests and nirvana is yours.

2012-04-21 22:12:35

Hmm…. strange… sounds awfully like the the convenient form of Christianity that the majority of Sinhala Christians like to practice: You can do what you want, lie, steal, murder, rape – just worship a magical non-existent creature in the sky, bow and scrape before fat lazy priests, confess your sins and beg for forgiveness and heaven is all yours.

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n
2012-04-21 22:38:27

True of all religions, be it buddhist, christian, islam, etc. I find that the most symbolically religious people the worst humans.

 
2012-04-21 22:56:57

You mean folks like Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Mussolini who were oh-so-religious? Hmm? Clearly you are as much a bigot as anyone else.

 
sach
2012-04-22 22:06:40

yeap they were religous too

 
 
 
Karaputugala
2012-04-21 22:25:36

Iresha!

There is no book written by lord Buddha himself. Nor he encouraged Idol worship. Lord Buddha not God. He never claimed Divinity.
Buddha was against the caste-system prevalent in the Hindu society. Don’t ask why we have cast-system in Sri Lanka.

Historical criticism has proved that the original teachings of Buddha can never be known. It seems that Gautama Buddha’s teachings were memorized by his disciples. After Buddha’s death a council was held at Rajagaha so that the words of Buddha could be recited and agreed upon. There were differences of opinion and conflicting memories in the council. Opinion of Kayshapa and Ananda who were prominent disciples of Buddha were given preference. A hundred years later, a second council at Vesali was held. Only after 400 years, after the death of Buddha were his teachings and doctrines written down. Little attention was paid regarding its authenticity, genuineness and purity.

For truth google, you may know the creator…

Me searching the true God… K

 
Haniff
2012-04-27 22:49:55

Iresha you’re correct dear sister. I too am a Buddhist in this country. Buddha was the greatest teacher for the whole universe…not for Dambulla or Sri Lanka. Why should they depend on such nasty actions. If you respect others they will respect and love you. Buddhism is a philosophy based on loving kindness…it’s not a religion of wars. Dhamma will be protected by itself. No need of protectors. We should understand this.

 
RJ
2012-05-05 08:58:54

The people are supposed pay their respect to buddha ..some do it with folded hands and some kneel.

 
 
The Olive Tree
2012-04-21 21:26:58

My dear fellow countrymen,

This is what US and their allies wants, DIVIDE and RULE. Let’s not endanger our mother Sri Lanka.

Last month, 10.000, Sri–Lankan Muslims walked towards the American Embassy in Colombo, against the the ”Geneva Convention  voting ” against Sri lanka,  supported by, the U.S, government,against SriLanka.

Proud to be a Sri Lankan (Muslim)

                               http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYjcUt9lQdk

2012-04-22 07:45:59

This has nothing to do with the US and everything to do with the idiot Sri Lankans.

 
 
SAD Muslim brother
2012-04-21 21:45:09

Dear Brother,

Why do you hate us is much? Brother, do you know the real meaning of Thambiya..? Do you know in what context it was told to brother Muslims..? Do you know the real meaning of Marakaliya..? Do you there is lots of true love behind the word Thambiya..? Do you know how much love you show by calling me Thambiya, trust me I feel honors, because you are calling me brother, yes I am your brother in humanity
Arabs married Sri Lankans Buddhist.

Marakaliya means The blood that saved me, so fondly called by ancients kings. Tell me why do you hate us so much..? Below is for your reference brother…. Let’s unite… Let’s respect each others faith and beliefs…..You may verify my claim from learned.

“You should not insult other religions while respecting your own religion. You should respect some factors of other religions too. One who is doing this, helps to the development of own religion and helps other religions as well.

One who is insulting other religions while respecting own religion, destroys the development of own religion. Therefore, unity is important. All may listen other religions as well! ”

Sad Muslim brother….

 
senaka
2012-04-21 22:37:22

On racial divides. can someone explain why muslim men party (you know what I mean or do I have to spell it out?) almost exclusively with Sinhalese girls, but when its time to marry do so with a virginal muslim girl? Why are the muslim girls kept covered, hidden and locked up in doors? Why can’t they come out an play too? Most muslim guys I know would get blue balls if the Sinhalese girls were kept locked in doors. Learing to share would make this country a happier place no? Relinquish the burkas and veils and let them muslim girls out to play my muslim brothers.

SEATIME
2012-04-21 23:15:10

Hi Senaka,

Your statement is contradictory?????? Bro.

You are asking why Muslim Men party? You say it’s a even act..? Correct, yes it’s a evil act, tell them when you meet them next time bro.
At last, you are asking why Muslim girls, don’t party..? Are you inviting them for evil too..?

I want to ask you where do you keep your ATM Card secret number…?
At the night club\Pubs for people to “C” or in a secret place..? The answer to your question is in it.

Brother, why don’t you marry a Muslim, somebody said in this that Arabs married Budhist ladies, which is true, we have Buddhist blood
In us. I will call you Sena Thambiya.. Ha ha. Just kidding bro.

Take Care Senaka….SEATIME

 
RJ
2012-05-05 09:03:00

This is the same world over ,most of the muslims don’t and cant practice rigid islam ..they all just pretend..how many do you think refuse food during fasting times..many men and boys slip out of their homes and secretly eat.

 
RJ
2012-05-05 09:13:03

If islam didn’t exist most of the world would have been a peaceful place……whats is the achievement of islam…look at somalia ,pakistan,afghanistan..iraq …only the oil rich gulf countries have some thing to show.

 
 
Fathima
2012-04-21 23:50:29

To all muslims here lyk dat khan guy and few others..either write somethng with sence and thought and stop being ignorant.. If u knw wat our prophet muhammad (sal) has preached, said and done,u wud knw that its just patience and understanding is how u should deal with these problms.as a muslim im ashamed of ur comments..

 
wal_thambiya
2012-04-22 00:17:10

so does muslims sell their lands to people from other religions? (even for a good offer) wht does the quran say abt that? land grabbing established through religion?

I am a Muslim
2012-04-22 07:03:54

Dear Islamaphobia behind wal Thambiya,

Tell me, where they have not sold..? Brother, talk to your inner self and you know the truth, you hate Muslims progress, cars, houses.
You don’t want to work hard, take risk, sacrifice personal commitments. But want to be Rick like thambiyas. Isn’t it.

FYI, 90% of my staff are Good Buddhist people, and they are with us for more than 18 years. We have lord Buddhas photos on their table and computer screen, IF you serious, I will give you my company name and EPF and ETF number and come to talk to my Buddhist brothers and sites in humanity and you will have no face for your CHAUVINISM.

Remember, this is 100% Muslim entity, controlled by 90% Buddhist. Tell me who is racist… You or me..?
How many hours you work for a day? Hom much time you waster on FACE BOOK and You Tube and in forwarding dirty and so called hate religious mails..? What you have got out of it, only irrational fear hatred..

ASK YOUR SELF! WHY I HATE MUSLIMS SO MUCH! What have they done to me personally. You hate us because the articles you read and forwarded emails are funded by foreign agenda.

I am from Kirilapone, ak from the temples in this vicinity, the goodwill between masjids and temples. Why are you alien to this peacefully living..?

Your heart knows the truth, you hate us WHY..? Our progress!!!! Work hard, spend some quality time with good people and have a balance view, respect others view point. Don’t do cut and paste. Do some research for your self.

Brother, how much you know about your religion.? Do you why Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. Do you know why . Buddha was against the caste-system?

First be a Buddhist, not a cyber Buddhist, good and oly forwarding hatred mails and reading sites pro extrem view.

I am a Muslim, who respect the teaching of Lord Buddha!

2012-04-22 13:24:41

No offense mate, but I don’t think Sri Lankan Muslims can play innocent. I’ve lost count of the number of hate mails that have been forwarded by Sri Lankan Muslims about the “evil Jews” and Israel/USA /Europe and all the supposed conspiracies of the Zionists. I don’t think any of these Sri Lankan Muslims have ever met a Jewish person in real life, yet they speak of them as if they are the devil incarnate. Then take a look at the absolute hatred that many Sri Lankan Muslims are expressing on Facebook towards the Sinhalese for a reality check. The problem is that the rampant racism and religious bigotry in the Sri Lankan Muslim community has not been exposed properly. But people are slowly beginning to realize that not all is hunky dory with the Sri Lankan Muslims.

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sach
2012-04-22 22:08:49

@ Deltoid
but the sinhala ppl are no different. Am i wrong? you cant paint the muslims from the same brush. Act more sensibly. Pls dont make things worse.

 
 
 
 
senaka
2012-04-22 00:45:15

@seatime. I take no offence bro. Most of my muslim buddies are wealthy and know how to party damn hard. They chase any piece of sinhalese skirt until its time to marry a good muslim girl. Who can blame them? Guys will be guys and if a girl is happy to be used and dumped that way its up to her no? But we should all share. So where them pretty muslim girls at? Why you keepin them hidden. Let them out brother. I’d date a muslim girl for sure but I never meet any socially. BTW my muslim buddies tell me most girls dress hot under them Burkas. I need to know if this is true. Let them out bro.

 
nasri
2012-04-22 03:43:04

guys why you dont want SRILANKA florished, talk about peace in community,be friendly each others,be a role model for srilankan.be a good citizen,do something for country,thing about our future generation.please give up all the bad ideas.when we gonna build our country argument never give us solution.religious leaders all ways make trouble in country it is not new for all of us.i am in out of country i live with buddist,christian as a brothers,nothing wrong with us.BE A SRILANKAN
RAFEEK MOHAMED NASRi
GOOD LUCK SRI LANKA

 
Gayan
2012-04-22 07:10:44

None of the so called Muslim countries allow any sort of other religions to even speak in their country. Tell me about one temple that was allowed to be built in a Muslim nation?
The Muslims treat the woman as second class filth, deprive the woman of basic civil rights, practice despicable laws…

And despite all these, the Muslims speak about not getting pampered in Sri lanka!!!
Lets be fair – we will match the number of temples in a Muslim country to the number of Mosques in Sri lanka
1 for 1
Demolish the rest
How many mosques will that leave standing?

THAT, my man, is the Buddhist compassion.
Tolerance
Dont think its an equivalent to spinelessness

2012-04-22 07:48:15

An eye for any eye is Buddhist compassion?

Gayan
2012-04-22 22:53:29

You have poor English my friend, or you are trying to mislead the readers.

The “THAT” refers to Tolerance

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kp
2012-04-22 10:20:58

Gayan, how are laws in other countries applicable in this scenario? and why would you want to build a temple in a muslim nation like saudi arabia, where there ARE no native buddhists in the first place?

tastyjujubes
2012-04-22 10:46:41

My question is – how do you know that there are no native Buddhists in Saudi Arabia? How can you be sure that there are no Saudi Arabian Christians? That is rather a sweeping claim to make and based on an the assumption that every single native there is necessarily Muslim. Seeing as all other religions other than Islam are outlawed in Saudia Arabia any native who does not follow Islam would certainly not make their faith public, because they would be executed.

And even if there are no native Buddhists in Saudi Arabia, there are certainly many Buddhists who are working in that country from Sri Lanka and Thailand and Christians from the Phillipines. Should they not have their religious rights respected?

For example there is a small Israeli community in Sri Lanka and they are free to practice their Jewish religion and have set up a synagogue without any issues ( http://chabadsrilanka.com ) even though they are not ‘native’ to the country.

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Gayan
2012-04-22 22:56:57

So according to you ONLY native Buddhists needs temples?
Others do not?
Wow…i hope same applies to other religions as well, or maybe you are calling for double standards in that case?
Just to make a point there are no native Muslims in Lanka too… all those came later with trade and/or migration.

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2012-04-23 16:13:36

So because Arab Muslims persecute other faiths, we should persecute SL Muslims? Why? What’s the connection? Muslims in SL must have the same rights as all other faiths in SL, and not the rights of other faiths in Saudi Arabia. Even if these were Saudi Muslims they should be treated the same as the Buddhists. Since when is tolerance on a reciprocal basis?

 
sach
2012-04-24 11:20:57

How do u say there are no native muslims in lanka? the muslims in SL are sons of this country just like everyone else. Is ur brain so small that you cant understand that? Most of the muslims have a sinhala/tamil connection. Everybody in SL is pretty much mixed when it comes to genetics. Therefore what you say is mumbo jumbo.

 
 
 
Buddhist by geography definitation
2012-04-22 11:06:08

Gayan,

FYI.

Tony Blair’s sister in law embraced Islam. Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bA6IPxYM0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Her stay with the Muslims broke the misconceptions she got like you Gayan about the Muslim society and specifically about the woman’s status intentionally differently portrayed by the so-called western media over years and finally she embraced Islam as her faith. So many

Do the know the fastest growing Religion in the world is Islam, and in UK more woman embrace Islam..? WHY You mean to say since
Islam treat them as second class filth..? Please YouTube do some research. Ever wonder why the nuns/sisters cover their head and dress like Muslim women, why Virgin Mary Is dressed like a Muslim women..? How do they dress, like Muslims..? Why?

Wher do you keep your PIN number, Fixed Deposits Documents, Jewellery, Title deed..? safe or you will display it at your entrance
And keep it out so that everyone can see them, why do you hide these things, you keep your valuables in a pace, which is safe. Might be a bank or safety deposits, our mothers, our sisters, and our daughters, are more precious for us then tangible things.

Do I have to remind you what Channel 4 the so called western media did for our mother land, why are you cherry picking, against Islam
Western media is pro and when it comes to Sri Lanka business they are anti..?

why this double standard. Gayan, don’t judge Muslims base on CNN, BBC or FOX, they want Arab oil, in the pretext of 9/11 and they brought Arab springs. This is what they are trying to do with our mother lanka. DIVIDE and RULE.

You are making their task easy……..For you 200 years of America is superior. For me 2,5000 years of our mother lanka proud history is superior.

I am a Buddhist by geography definitation and a Muslim by birth. Please under stand, let’s live peacefully side by side.

Buddhist by geography definitation

Gayan
2012-04-22 23:02:25

Everyone has a right to follow what ever religion they like.
When we are born, no one comes and asks “what religion do u like baby?” We simply take what ever our parents have. No point having big talk about this is better than other.
What i said is that no muslin nation in the world tolerates other religions or let ppl setup Buddhist temples in their countries, but when they get the same medicine, they cry and weep…

You just asked me “why this double standard. Gayan”
Lets correct it and let ME ask you “why this double standard” ???

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2012-04-23 16:46:46

It IS a double standard. If men oppress women in Mongolia, should men be oppressed here in SL?

 
 
 
Roshan
2012-04-22 17:41:00

Gayan,

Just cos muslim countries stoop to such low levels does not mean we have to be too.
And like jack said, i fail to see how this is your idea of buddhist compassion. you seem to be spitting out pent up rage in you .
frankly your views are worrying. and border line racist.

It is because of educated but narrow minded folk like you that this country still suffers. i bet you don’t socialize much with muslims to understand their viewpoints and i bet you studied in a buddhist school.

people who interact with people of other religions or nationalities more, grow to understand each other better .
this also applies to muslims who think jews are evil, but havent ever met a jew.

Gayan
2012-04-22 23:08:33

Dude “racists” is used for a Race, not a religion. Though its a nice word you could use to create a big noise, its not the correct one in this case
;)
Well you are right. As you said
“Just cos muslim countries stoop to such low levels does not mean we have to be too.”

That makes me a “racist”?

The Buddhist compassion i speak of is Tolerating the Mosques in Lanka. There are many here, not just one. Sometimes we even cur down Bo trees. That does not mean we are eradicating Buddhism.
Dude, you should first look in to the case with some intelligence, see what while all other mosques in the country are untouched, this particular one was!
Well..there must be some reason….right?
;)

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Roshan
2012-04-23 09:25:42

” see what while all other mosques in the country are untouched, this particular one was! Well..there must be some reason….right?”

I think this statement really sums up your intelligence pretty well.. !!

 
2012-04-23 16:58:13

“Dude “racists” is used for a Race, not a religion. Though its a nice word you could use to create a big noise, its not the correct one in this case”

The correct word is “bigot”.

 
 
 
sach
2012-04-23 14:32:07

what nonsense are you talking? How come SLn muslims are responsible for that. Are u that silly? Just look at the reasons u give. The problem in this country is the most vocal are the idiots in the country. Anyone can understand what has happened to this country by looking at ur comments.

Why are u clubbing SL muslims and muslims living in another country together? Are christians in SL responsible for America’s actions in iraq and Afganistan, just because they happened to believe in the same book.

tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 14:47:53

Sach, I don’t know whether you have read my comment on this thread. But I made the point that the two are often tied together because Sri Lankan Moors have chosen MUSLIM as their over arching identity. It is the term MUSLIM that is used above and over all other terms. So what other Muslims do are tied to Muslims in Sri Lanka because of this.

What I do not get is that the many people who say “How come SLn muslims are responsible for that. Are u that silly…Why are u clubbing SL muslims and muslims living in another country together? ” are quick to say things like: “Look at how all the Muslim countries supported Sri Lanka in Geneva, has everyone in Sri Lanka forgotten about that?” or “Many Sri Lankans earn their living in Muslim countries!” or “Sri Lanka imports its oil from Muslim countries!” or “It is only because of Muslim countries like Pakistan that Sri Lanka won the war!” or “Sri Lanka Tourism makes a lot of money from Muslim tourists!” – if you do not believe me have a look at the current conversations on Facebook.

Basically, what I am saying is that you can’t have your cake and eat it to. What seems to be the case is that some Sri Lankan Muslims appear to link what Muslims do in other countries to Muslims in Sri Lanka when it is something good and claim some sort of responsibility for it. But when it is something bad they ask why the two are being linked… I think this is somewhat hypocritical to be honest.

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2012-04-23 17:08:47

There is no over arching identity. Both Moors and Malays are Muslim, but then so are many Africans, and African Americans, Pakistanis, Syrians, and Indonesians. They may identify with being Muslim, but no more than English and Japanese have an overarching identity of being Christian.

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 17:27:22

I do think there is an over arching identity of ‘Muslim’ especially the case with the Sri Lankan Moors. Sri Lanka is one of the very few countries that recognizes the term “Muslim” as both a religious group and an ethnic group; the two have been tied together even in officialdom. The terms Sri Lankan Moor and Sri Lankan Malay are used very seldom in comparison to the term ‘Sri Lankan Muslim’ (infact some Sri Lankan Malays do complain that their unique identity is being subsumed under the “Muslim” identity). This is the case both in government pronouncements and in the general media as well. If you asked a random person on the street who you thought was Moor what they were ethnically, how many would answer with “I am Moor” in the same way as a Sinhalese person would say “I am Sinhalese” or a Tamil person would say “I am Tamil”? This use of the term Muslim as both an ethnic and religious marker is one of the reasons why I think that what other Muslims do in other parts of the world are tied in to Sri Lankan Muslims. But some amongst the Sri Lankan Muslim community do their bit to further this as well, when they claim anything good that is done in or by Muslim countries as being tied to them somehow — basically if it is something bad like iconoclasm, violence, oppression of women, oppression of other religions, terrorism etc it has absolutely nothing to do with Sri Lankan Muslims, but if it is Muslim countries supporting Sri Lanka at Geneva, or cheaper oil being sold to Sri Lanka, or Muslim tourists from the Middle East visiting Sri Lanka, or the UAE funding a road in Sri Lanka then it has everything to do with Sri Lankan Muslims and the claim “See! Look how wonderful Muslims are!”

 
2012-04-24 12:44:25

Firstly, there is no such recognition of “Muslim” as an ethnic group in officialdom. If you look at any official document or form, it will say “race” and “religion”. The term “ethnicity” covers race and religion and often uses one or the other as a classification; sometimes both — eg an ethnic Albanian, an ethnic Christian, an ethnic Jew, etc — but not necessarily.

The classification of “Muslims” as a community has been done mostly in practice by Sinhalese and Tamils. They do the same with Christians. A cop might look at my ID and ask me “Christian ther?” when he actually means “are you a Burgher?” and be further confused if I were to answer, “no, I’m a Catholic”. Malays and Moors consider themselves separate and have their own official associations like the Moors Club and the Malay Sports whatever. It is mostly outsiders who see them as just common Muslims. There might be some submerging of the Malay identity by the Moors because they are such a small minority, but you could say that the Christian Sinhalese are similarly subsumed by the Buddhist Sinhalese. So could you then say that it is the “Sinhalese” part of the Buddhist Sinhalese (the common factor) that is swamping the Christian Sinhalese? Of course not; it is in fact the “Buddhist” part. So it is not the overarching identity of being Sinhalese that is subsuming the Christian Sinhalese identity, but the fact that being Buddhist is seen as being Sinhalese. Same with the Moors and Malays. Being Muslim is normal for a Moor, so the assumption is that if you’re a Muslim you must be a Moor.

Secondly, even if SL Muslims identified with Arabs (or whoever else you dislike) because of there shared religion, that doesn’t mean that the state (or the Sinhalese) has the right to treat them any different to other Sri Lankans, simply because you dislike what those they identify with happen to be doing. That would be collective punishment, and pretty stupid.

 
 
 
 
2012-04-22 10:00:37

Well Said Indi!! and thank you for speaking on behalf of the new ‘Sri Lankan’ race.
Keep up the good work! You will have my fullest support.

Best regards!

Thilina

 
Niyaz
2012-04-22 10:09:16

Let’s look at the positives because we are all SriLankans and because we should live here side by side. Its very easy to put together a series of incidents and create a savage image of any group of people. I can put together my personal sightings of July 83 and create a savage image the Singhalese people but living with them all my life I will defend themthat it is not their norm. We have to look at this incident also similarly and work out the adjustments necessary to live peacefully.
Aboout Multi Culturalism in Islam, Islam being a religion that put forward a thesis (The Quran) followed by a lifestyle practiced by a living prophet who created a model culture for the people. Ordering the Prophet to go and preach the religion the Quran continues telling the Prophet that those who refuse to accept it let them go with the phrase ‘ To me my religion and to you yours’. You can see it so well in Islamic Capitals of Dubai, Beirut, Cairo etc. It is this culture that prohibits the Muslim from getting into undesirable activities. As for new mosques in Muslim countries, about2-3 yrs ago during Wesak there was the opening of a new temple in Bangladesh telecast over here.
And for you Gayan before we choose that country can you please point out which Muslim country has Singhala Buddhists who fought for that country and sacrifised ap 5-10 of their whole country population in one incident defending the country.

Gayan
2012-04-22 23:11:40

I didn’t know that you have to die for a country before it lets you build a religious place of your worship.
What page of the Quaran is this written in?
;)

2012-04-23 17:19:30

Well over here it seems that even dying for your country isn’t good enough to be treated with equality.

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tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 17:43:15

To be honest I do think that Muslims in Sri Lanka have more religious rights and freedoms than do many Muslims in officially Muslim countries themselves. This may sound strange, but for example, in Pakistan, the Shias are persecuted on a daily basis – they are attacked, killed and their places of worship destroyed (just plug in “Pakistan Shia” into http://news.google.com and check out the resulting links). So are the Ahmadiyyas and the Sufis. In Sri Lanka however, each of these Islamic groups along with the Sunnis are free to practice their religion, build their mosques and propagate their faith (most Sri Lankans aren’t aware of all these differences, they only see a monolithic Islam). Even the extreme, conservative Islam like Wahabism is given a free hand in Sri Lanka and allowed to be spread on National TV and Radio. People like Zakir Naik (an Islamic preacher who many consider to be rather extremist) who are denied entry to Britain and Canada are welcomed in Sri Lanka. The azan is broadcasted 5 times a day from the mosques (on national TV during Ramazan as well) in majority non-Muslim areas, when this is not allowed in any western country, even in France with a 8-10% Muslim minority. The most holy days for Muslims are national holidays, including Meelud Un Nabi (The Prophet’s Birthday) – this is not celebrated in some Muslim countries because it is contrary to the official version of Islam they follow. The government has a Ministry of Islamic Affairs, sponsors Islamic Radio and TV programmes, and provides free cloth to Muslim girls to wear a hijab (while the hijab is banned in France). Now I am not Muslim myself so my opinion may be biased, but when it comes to religious freedom in Sri Lanka, I think the Sri Lankan Muslims have it good.

 
2012-04-24 13:03:30

“To be honest I do think that Muslims in Sri Lanka have more religious rights and freedoms than do many Muslims in officially Muslim countries themselves. ”

Who cares? SL Muslims are citizens of SL and have the rights of Sri Lankans, not of Arabs or whoever. There’s no point saying Muslims are doing this over there so it’s OK to do that to Muslims over here. The SL Muslims are not responsible for what Pakistanis or Sudanese or whoever does. Half the problem is that SL Sinhalese (particularly Buddhists) look at our country and think because they control the government here and Muslims control the governments over there, all Muslims must be controlling the governments over there. They don’t any more than Burmese or Thai Buddhists control the GoSL. If a Buddhist is burning down a Tamil house over there, should I say, “ooh, you’re Buddhist too, so let’s burn your house down ‘cos Buddhists are intolerant arseholes”? Why is this such a hard concept to understand?

 
 
 
 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-22 10:09:52

A view from one of the stakeholders:

“Some lands belonging to the Rangiri Dambulu Viharaya were handed over to the government under a special Gazette notification of 1982 for the Dambulla Sacred Area Development Project. The logic behind the handover of the temple land was that the government could not spend public funds to develop private lands.

There was neither a mosque nor a Hindu kovil in that land in 1982. The surveyors have documented everything in the land; every coconut tree or the mango tree are documented. But there are no documentations of a mosque or a kovil because they didn’t exist at that time. Therefore, statements that the mosque was 60 years old or 100 years old are baseless.

There were four Muslim families living on the temple land at the time the land was handed over. We have committed ourselves to religious harmony in the country. There is no dispute over the right of any community to worship. But building mosques on temple lands which had been taken over for the sacred area development project is manifestly unfair.

We do not dispute the right to build a place of worship but to build that there should be devotees. But in this instance, there are only two Muslim families living in the area who are from Akurana and now run two shops in Dambulla.
The project for which the temple land was taken over has also been repeatedly delayed by successive governments. Later, the area up to the Kandalama junction was developed and the project came to a halt. When we inquired, we realized that the dispute over the location of the mosque was partly a reason and that the political authorities were trying to limit the project area up to the Kandalama junction instead of developing the full area initially designated as the sacred area. That included the area up to the Kandalama Thanayama (Rest House).

Therefore, we held a peaceful protest on Friday and demanded that the unauthorized mosque built recently be moved out. There were no worshippers in the mosque. Those reports that we obstructed prayers were false. There were only four persons inside, the caretaker and employees of the mosque. As thousands of people have gathered, the police asked the four persons inside the mosque to leave.

The divisional secretary who arrived at the scene also said that there was no mosque when the temple land was taken over 30 years ago.

Government officials assured us that unauthorized structures within the sacred area would be removed. After their assurance, we dispersed. Our protest was peaceful and we have not harmed or damaged any persons or property in the mosque.”

http://tinyurl.com/8ymejk6

Tired Soul
2012-04-22 16:17:00

Dear tastyjujubes,

Check out this video on YouTube: for truth and it’s on a Friday, guess the devotees at the mosque for a Friday noon prayer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYjcUt9lQdk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Also mosque which had been in existence for the last 50 years, be the property of the temple? Like the Israel’s claiming the land
Belongs to Palestine, as the land promised by GOD!

Victims in everything.

Tired Soul

 
Roshan
2012-04-22 16:48:28

sad to see a buddhist monk spitting out blatant lies. only 4 people in the mosque? peaceful protest?
i guess the petrol bombs the preceding day, the stone throwing and the damage done to the mosque (read today’s papers) are all acts of peace.

mervyn silva is better than this monk.

 
 
wal_thambiya
2012-04-22 10:35:32

all these pariahs should be banished to so called Muslim countries.

 
Nandula
2012-04-22 10:37:34

This post seems like a knee-jerk reaction to a news item. Building a religious site is not like the building of any other type. They are often built as a show of power. Saudi-funded mosques in majority Buddhist areas and Government backed temples in majority Hindu area are some of the examples. As the comments threads reveal, the approval process for these building should take into account such factors as the number of worshipers in the area and the source of funding. Funding by countries which are intolerant to religious freedom should be discourage if sources can be identified.

 
the way the dodo
2012-04-22 11:18:52

just because the quran wants to kill all the infidels doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to make that the benchmark

 
the way the dodo
2012-04-22 11:20:59

to be honest if anything needs to be destroyed in dambulla it should be the hideous new temple right next to the old one

 
Innocent Thambiya
2012-04-22 11:47:39

So, you are wolf in sheep’s clothing… Tell me who is wal..?
You don’t have any answer to any of these, but filth. I can guess your up-bringing!

Where we’re you when DR. Mervin Silva build a Indu Kovil in Kelaniya..? why were you silent? Why were the monks silent?
Wasn’t that a scared place? The truth is the government wants to sell these lands to hotels, HOT SPOT, do you how much the monks werePaid to do this demo..? Don’t get carried away, where are monks who promised you the Dharama Deepiya… Gave up for a MERC..

In few years you will witness five stars hotels in these lands, and the monk will be driving LEXUS.. You will fart in a big arm chair.
Blaming the Muslims for selling the land to foreigners. Do you the politician behind this, please read papers and research.

Wouldn’t you…???????? This is a political gimmick.. Endless suffering for peaceful Muslim Communit. Do you know 70% of Muslims live below the poverty line, betrayed by all governments, a helpless community.

Innocent Thambiya

2012-04-22 13:15:08

This mosque in Dambulla was built on temple land. Why was there a need to build a mosque on temple land? I don’t get it.

veedhur
2012-04-22 15:58:55

The Mosque was built on private land. It was not built on temple land.

The area was made ‘sacred land’ in 1982 by a government announcement. Which then gives the right to the Buddhist monk to destroy any structures within the land that he deems fit.

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Gayan
2012-04-22 23:15:30

The area was made ‘sacred land’ in 1982 by a government announcement.

AND at that time there was NO mosque there at that time!!!

Its plain for any one to see what happened, I Guess

 
Roshan
2012-04-23 09:28:11

The mosque was built in 1963. Get your facts right.
I guess your version of “plain for any one to see what happened, I Guess” is your imagination driven by your own animosity.

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 13:09:07

Roshan do you have any evidence that the mosque was built in 1963?

 
Roshan
2012-04-23 13:32:38

I’m referring to multiple news reports from main stream news sites that it was built on 1962/1963 and over 50 yrs old, and also please ask Indi himself (this blog article already states it is over 50 yrs old.. please do read ) and also first hand accounts by some muslim colleagues who have worshipped here in the early 70′s.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/22/us-srilanka-mosque-idUSBRE83L0AO20120422

http://www.lankatruth.com/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2108:mosque-destroyed-despite-president-being-informed-of-the-threat&catid=36:top-stories

http://www.srilankabrief.org/2012/04/dambulla-mosque-to-be-relocated.html

http://english.srilankamirror.com/2012/04/police-looked-on-as-mobs-destroyed-dambulla-mosque/

Can you offer evidence that it was not so?

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 13:46:47

So far all I’m reading is random people claiming it is built in 1963 which is then being reported in the new articles. So we have two opposing views here. And no, I don’t have evidence that is not so. But I do believe that if it is built on temple land, then the mosque ought to be moved out of temple land. It should not matter if the mosque is 2 years old or 60 years old – it is not appropriate for a mosque to be built on temple land. It is another matter if it is not built on temple land.

 
veedhur
2012-04-23 14:08:07

The mosque when it was built more than 50 years ago was on neutral land – in fact private land – they claim to have a deed.

The Prime Minister, thugs and the monk are relying on an announcement made in 1982, that has a suspect legal pedigree, which declared the area as ‘sacred land’ to be developed under town planning ordinance. Now this ‘sacred land’ concept is bull shit because that is what the Supreme court of Sri Lanka said so.

Savvy?

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 14:32:51

Veedhur, if they have a deed, they should furnish it. Or go to court. But then, parts of Anuradhapura were also declared a ‘sacred area’ and a good thing it was too…otherwise it would have been built to the ground especially around the ancient sites and monuments. Thanks to the “Sacred Area” designation the beautiful ruins are untouched and are found in parks. Now I do not know exactly geographically this mosque is, but if it is in temple land, and if it is looming on the thousands of years old Dambulla temple, then I think that it should be moved out of temple land. Note, this is my opinion, and you are welcome to have another view on the issue. I wouldn’t want a new Buddhist temple or a Hindu Kovil built smack in the Parthenon, or next to the Giza pyramids because they do not belong there – maybe somewhere else in Athens or Cairo but not on an archaeological site. Dambulla Vihara is a site of immense historical and archaeological value and a prime tourist site as well. A mosque built on temple land is not appropriate.

Secondly, although we can talk as much as we want about the subject, it is the people who live in Dambulla who will be living there with each other and the consequences of whatever action is taken. Clearly a large section of the population is not happy with where the mosque is currently standing and want it relocated to another area. Meaning, they are not opposed to Muslims having a mosque and worshipping in it, but they are opposed to where the mosque is currently standing. There must be a reason for it, seeing as there are plenty of mosques in Kandy which is also a sacred area, and there is a mosque almost next to the Dalada Maligawa (and an Anglican church right in front jutting onto temple land).

According to this article ( http://tinyurl.com/75yn54d ) the temple has also offered money for the relocation of the mosque. Meaning, again, that they are not opposed to the existence of a mosque, but they are opposed to where it is currently located. In my opinion the Muslims of the area should accept the deal and relocate their mosque because at the end of the day the minority Muslims of Dambulla will be living with the majority Sinhalese in Dambulla and I don’t think they will be doing themselves a favour by trying to take on the Sinhalese who form the overwhelming majority there. This might sound somewhat crude but we won’t be the ones living in Dambulla will we?

 
veedhur
2012-04-23 18:03:11

Furnish proof of ownership, right. but where?

A mosque built on temple land, you say, is not appropriate. But who said that this was temple land?

I am with you on the preservation of some sites – but that has to be within the legal limits as stated in the laws relating to archeological sites and antiquities ordinance and the like. To my understanding the expanded area is not covered under any of these laws and what the PM, monk and the thugs are basing their claim on 1982 designation has no legal validity in bringing about a sacred land. BTW the mosque and habitat thereabout are not smack in the side of the Dambulla rock.

As to your real politic argument that one should give in to majoritarian predilections should not be the basis on which issues of this nature are solved in a multi-ethnic and supposedly pluralistic society.

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 18:26:07

Veedhur, I did say IF the mosque is on temple land, then it should be relocated in my opinion. To me it does not matter if it is “not smack in the side of Dambulla rock.” This is because I do not think that temple land is an appropriate place for a mosque to be built, especially a temple of historic value. I have to be honest, but from the news articles that we have been provided and that which I have read, it is very difficult to make out what exactly the truth is and I have trouble understanding how you have come to your conclusions. Are you able to provide any links to support your claims that “the expanded area is not covered under any of these laws and what the PM, monk and the thugs are basing their claim on 1982 designation has no legal validity in bringing about a sacred land” ? I would be interested in reading them. I mean, was there even a 1982 declaration? Like rajivwm said I do think the Sri Lankan media has failed the Sri Lankan people here.

It is quite easy for people living in Colombo and elsewhere to sit in their armchairs and blog about this issue and put forward their opinion like we do, but we won’t be living in Dambulla will we? It’s the people who live there who ought to come to a compromise/resolution for their own welfare. Personally, I do think the mosque should accept the proposal to relocate and maybe in the process ask the government for a larger plot of land and for the government to fund the construction of the mosque. You may feel differently, but I do think it is the best resolution for the current imbroglio. I see the temple offering to pay some of the expenses of relocating as a positive sign that reconciliation and compromise are possible.

 
Roshan
2012-04-23 19:36:43

“Clearly a large section of the population is not happy with where the mosque is currently standing and want it relocated to another area”

How did you arrive at this ? do you have proof? did you do some kind of survey? does 500-1000 people who protested equate to the majority in dambulla? Are you able to provide any links to support your claims that this is a protest by the majority in dambulla? I would be interested in reading them too. :)
your comments are getting a bit silly here dont u think?

So what your saying is no matter who has rightful ownership of this land. the mosque should be moved.
So if there is a for instance a buddhist temple in a muslim majority area and if the majority muslims oppose the temple and want it moved , that should be moved as well? or better yet muslim mullah’s can come and protest , hurl stones and petrol bomb the site and then finally get their way.

i’m sad to say this is the type of thinking that led to 30 yrs of war.

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 20:09:02

Roshan, actually no, I haven’t done any surveys. But the news articles I’ve read reported that there were more than 2000 protestors? I don’t know about you but I would class that as a large amount of people. I mean have two thousand people protested against the rising cost of living for example? Even the main opposition can’t seem to muster that many people these days. So I would say that it is significant.

Regarding your second paragraph, we do not know who has rightful ownership of the land, and the media is not giving anyone that information. I do think relocating the mosque is a compromise that will work – if the mosque trustees are willing. As I mentioned earlier, they could ask for a larger plot of land, for the government to fund the construction, build the road etc as part of the deal etc. If not, then I think the issue will simmer and I don’t think things will be all that pleasant in Dambulla for the time being. People outside Dambulla may be happy, but not the people in Dambulla, including the Muslim minority who will have to live with an overwhelmingly Sinhalese majority. If the majority of people living in the suburb I live in weren’t happy with something I was doing then I wouldn’t do it. I would not be comfortable living with all my neighbours being hostile towards me, even if they didn’t show it publicly. But then, that is me.

As for the example you set out, well it wouldn’t be a first in Sri Lanka – except not including a Buddhist places of worship. But make no mistake, several mosques and shrines belonging to the Sufis/Shias have been attacked and destroyed, especially in Eastern Sri Lanka by the Wahabis and nothing was done about it, basically the Mullahs of the sect who led the attacks had their way without any opposition from the Muslim community at large. Then again, in Beruwala if I am not mistaken there was an attack on a mosque led by one Muslim sect which actually left several Muslims dead. I do not remember as much outrage being expressed by the Sri Lankan Muslim community then as is being expressed here over the Dambulla incident.

Now that you brought up the idea of a survey…if we carried out a survey in Dambula regarding whether the mosque should stay or be relocated, would you respect the verdict of that survey? Maybe this would be a way of resolving the issue – let the population of Dambulla vote on it?

 
Roshan
2012-04-23 21:34:26

Everything should be viewed in context. The population of dambulla city according to most sites is close to 70,000. So 2000 people does seem a very small minority. also the protest seem planned in advance (banners, flags etc) and there are reports that people other than residents of dambulla was involved and was coordinated through sinhalabuddhist.com , the various extremist buddhist facebook groups and a radio station operating from dambulla.

Also some sites are reporting that actual residents of dambulla are far from happy at the protest.

http://groundviews.org/2012/04/23/bigoted-monks-and-militant-mobs-is-this-buddhism-in-sri-lanka-today/

As to the compromise, news reports indicate that the mosque trustees are willing to re-locate the mosque if it is requested (not ordered). so why couldn’t the monks do the civilized thing? why not just request that the mosque be moved? the takaram shed that it is currently, i’m sure the trustees would like to move to a different location with govt funding.

but that’s not what happened. it was petrol bombed, stones hurled, and vandalism attempted. the videos surrounding the incident clearly show the head monk threatening people and mocking Muslims, and the other hooligans laughing at it, and remember this happened on the most important day of the week for muslims and at the precise time of friday noon prayers. so this is clearly an attempt at creating communal tension.

To your question, yes i would support re-locating the mosque if the majority of the residents in dambulla want this. in the same breath would you support prosecution of this monks and other hooligans who tried to stir up communal tension here? make an example of these bigots, so that people would think twice before trying to whip up tension and make a statement that Sri lanka does not tolerate bigots or racists!

 
tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 22:13:37

Roshan, if you wish to believe that 2000 is a small number then so be it. I, however, consider it to be a large number of people assembled for whatever cause. We will have to agree to disagree there.

According to the Lanka E News article (and they certainly are not pro government), the mosque trustees *were* asked to move before this mob protest took place, but they refused to do so. Now IF that article was right (like I said, the media has failed us here), the monks did do the “civilized thing” (according to you), first. And IF that article was right, I do not know why the the mosque trustees did not agree to relocate prior to the public protest, but are willing to relocate now if requested?

I will agree with you that the mob violence/vigilantism is reprehensible and should be condemned. But I also believe that they have a right to protest. Those who broke the law should be brought to justice – regardless of who they are. But as you well know things do not work like that in Sri Lanka, do they? The EPDP and Douglas Devananda gets to have its way, Mervyn gets to have his way, Ashraff got his way, Felix Perera got his way, Karuna is a government minister enjoying all the perks, Anuruddha Ratwatte got his way, so it’s pretty silly to suggest that there is some religious bias if that’s what you’re trying to say. Infact, no one responsible for the attacks on the Muslim mosques/shrines in Kattankudy, Kalmunai or Beruwala has been brought to justice for their ‘crimes’ or ‘bigotry’ and that was 2-3 years ago.

 
Roshan
2012-04-24 10:14:28

Yes 2000 is a small number, in relation to the population of dambulla. so if all the extremists in dambulla get together and form a crowd of 2000 people should the other 68,000 agree to that? its quite alarminig how intelligent people seem to derive these conclusions to support their own bigoted views.

it is quite strange that you will disregard all the video evidence and all the other news sites and continue to harp on one news item you’ve seen. your mind is completely shut off , because that’s what you want to believe.

and so where does it stop? . your justification that since all the others get away with it, these people should be allowed to get away with the violence as well.
BRAVO …!! spoken like a true Bigot!!

 
Citizen
2012-04-24 10:50:26

Tastyjujubes,

“I will agree with you that mob violence/vigilantism is reprehensible and should be condemned.But I also believe that they have a right to protest”

I think we can all agree that they have a right to protest , but you don’t seem to agree that violence and inciting communal tensions needs to be punished. the video’s are all their in the public domain to support this.

the claim that you are against mob violence seems to be just lip service as you will not support any action against them. you are no better than them.

 
 
 
 
riyaz
2012-04-22 14:46:22

dear brother and sisters
we are all srilankans we dont wont to fight for this thing,this thinks doing those who dont know the proper education fellows,any religon not allow distroy other riligon.

 
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veedhur
2012-04-22 17:12:47

So as was to be expected. The mosque in Dambulla is to be closed and relocated outside of the Sacred Land! http://www.ceylontoday.lk/16-5008-news-detail-dambulla-mosque-to-be-relocated.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

This ‘harassment’ was made possible not only because of Buddhist thuggery (sincere apologies to Lord Buddha) but also because of how the Sri Lankan state is structured – to give pre-eminence to Buddhism.

 
sach
2012-04-22 22:11:30

i think the sane buddhists in SL should get together and build a mosque for the muslims and name it as ‘sinhala muslim brotherhood mosque’. This is the only way we can give a slap to the ones behind this. what a shame u ppl are. The thing i am most annoyed is even educated ones support these mfkrs.

tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 13:08:00

Well, like I said in the other thread, if the mosque is indeed built on temple land, then I do think that it should be moved out of temple land. This means that a place of worship for the Muslims will continue to exist, but just on temple land.

 
 
Gungan
2012-04-22 23:20:08

At this rate, Sri Lanka will soon be known as the Buddhist Taliban. It’s time all sane Sri Lankans got out to the streets and told the govt that enough is enough and we can’t let this insanity continue.

Gayan
2012-04-22 23:23:43

we will also have to update the English dictionary
New word definition – Taliban – meaning “breaking unlawful building construction”
We can also rename the Road Development Authority’s unit for clearing the pavements as “Taliban unit”
;)

Roshan
2012-04-23 09:30:46

lets assume for a moment that this is a unlawful construction.
i guess then the buddhist monks and the other lunatics are from the RDA eh?
dude stop talking nonsense.

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tastyjujubes
2012-04-23 13:06:01

People do have a right to protest. At least, they should have the right to protest. I think we can all agree on that. The issue is the use of violence.

 
 
 
 
Gayan
2012-04-22 23:20:48

Or more easily, the Muslims themselves can even build it AFTER buying a land, rather than building an illegal construction on government owned land, or lands belonging to some one else.
Since there is a Law, if some one comes and destroys such a legally constructed building you can file a case.
If, how ever, its an illegal construction, and the owners or neighbors break it down , you can of-course blog vehemently about it
;)

 
Zain
2012-04-22 23:32:26

It is not an illegal construction, see this video you know the truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUHvTrXFGU

 
nasri
2012-04-22 23:46:13

“This is the first time that Muslims were prevented from engaging in their obligatory Friday prayers. They say that the area has been declared a sacred area for Buddhists. Everything is sacred, including mosques. You can bring down liquor stores, but why would you bring down a place of worship?” .
“The government cannot come out with any stale reasons. They must find a solution. From their attitude it becomes evident how this country has suffered on ethnic lines. Tese incidents will further polarize the ethnic population in this country,

 
nasri
2012-04-23 00:42:01

bro gayan your are extremists.are you from dabulla? then watch youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUHvTrXFGU

 
nasri
2012-04-23 00:44:10

please don’t give bad idea to our country my brothers.

 
2012-04-23 08:56:27

Has the Government asked that the mosque be moved?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17805202

 
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Hakeem
2012-04-23 11:24:26

Sri Lanka is the worst country ever in management, worshipping is the one of the very important event that every individual pray for their respective god, but here when praying some people have entered the mosque, disturbing and hurting the muslim community.

The people who disturbed will be severely punished by Allah,

RJ
2012-05-05 09:19:34

Look at somalia ,pakistan,afghanistan..iraq …libya ,syria,palestine..allah is punishing muslims…buddhists dont need a god ..we do our things..

 
 
the way of the dodo
2012-04-23 18:58:32

It seems to me there are a lot of unknowns about this case. But this so called mosque is a takaran shed. I simply cannot fathom why these monks feel threatened by it’s presence.

pitastharaya
2012-04-23 20:25:14

This is the result of religious disharmony caused by extremists like anvermanathunga.com and sinhalabuddhist.com.

sach
2012-04-24 11:25:39

yes it is high time we take actions against those two. There are sites like that in every other country but our people are not evolved enough not to fall for these people.

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myil selvan
2012-04-23 20:06:14

Mosque has been there for over 50 years. Just because the GoSL passes a Sacred Area act in 1982 does that mean this Mosque that is older than the 1982 act must be removed? What kind of precedent is that setting?

So every time the GoSL comes up with Sacred Area acts does that mean we should removed mosques, churches and kovils?

Sinhala-Buddhist Racism at play, plain and simple.

 
Self-Analysis
2012-04-24 08:15:36

Listen, to the people of the Dambulla area who are ashamed at the behaviour of the Buddhist clergy.
A member of the Sangha who disrobes, jumps up and down and exposes himself, in public….the world is watching.

punya bhoomi = killing field…? You decide….

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfpg2jqy0Ow&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Bigoted monks…. Is this Buddhism…? Or justified by way of protecting Buddhism!

Sri Lanka is ours….

 
senaka
2012-04-24 22:08:42

Enough already. Where are the muslim girls? Have you let them out yet? I want to party.

 
2012-08-09 07:26:26

[...] sacrilegious events like this all the more sad. This and acts like ‘Buddhists’ threatening and evicting a mosque in Dambulla are a shame to both religion and nation. Sri Lanka is an ostensibly Buddhist state, but an open [...]

 
2012-08-09 07:54:54

[...] sacrilegious events like this all the more sad. This and acts like ‘Buddhists’ threatening and evicting a mosque in Dambulla are a shame to both religion and nation. Sri Lanka is an ostensibly Buddhist state, but an open [...]

 
2012-08-09 10:59:46

[...] events like this all the more sad. This and acts like ‘Buddhists’ threatening and evicting a mosque in Dambulla are a shame to both religion and nation. Sri Lanka is an ostensibly Buddhist state, but an open [...]

 
More-MAD
2012-10-22 23:45:10

Welcome! One Modaya got a lesson. Another Muslim Modaya want the same. Muslim hamba fuckers also looking for a lesson. We saw how Muslims ran when the Tamils asked to leave from Jafna :P No jihad, no support (only by Sinhalese areas again gave for Muslims to start over! ; Keleguna nethi ballo thopi). No these afgan like will. Just left like pigs. Think twise before say puppet. Keep the help in mind.

 
More-MAD
2012-10-22 23:52:25

This will shows us the importance of Islam. – :P Try to find answers within yourself than look fo Mithreeya bhudda and again try to make a sambola like mohamad played with Chrstian teachings.

Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 54 :: Hadith 445

Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet said, “Gabriel said to me, ‘Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire).” The Prophet asked. “Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?” He replied, “Even then.”

LoL – All pimps goes to heaven.

 
2013-03-22 11:53:23

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kayjay
2013-03-22 15:34:16

Is this a joke? Try looking at your own spelling, grammar and sentence structure before commenting on others! E.g. ‘web-site’, ‘an I in’, lack of capitalisation to name but a few.

 
 
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