Channel 4′s Killing Fields
How the government remembers the war, bullet with lotus coming out top. Also biased.
Started watching ‘The Killing Fields Of Sri Lanka’. So far I find it biased and framed completely wrong. I mean, who cares how you frame blood, of course, but the issue is that it makes the information completely undigestible in Sri Lanka. The upshot seems to be not that how the war was conducted was wrong (agreed) but that the war itself was wrong (disagreed). I say this not in the sense that I like war, but in the sense that the last push ended a war which had been blazing for 30 years. Which the status quo would have continued. Channel 4 frames that horrible status quo as something to be preserved and mourned, and the war ending as a horrible thing, but I think that’s just wrong. It was done horribly, but it wasn’t horrible. I haven’t finished the doc yet, but these are my initial thoughts.
The film begins with the LTTE establishing banks and TV stations, and saying that they ‘retained the support of much of the population’. They set it up like Eelam was a good thing (‘a functioning military state’), however, flawed, until the GoSL waged war and messed it up. ‘In 2008, it all began to change.’ Dum dum dum. Seriously, they cued ominous music.
For most Sri Lankans, however, north and south, that change had been much needed for 30 years. Channel 4 frames the UN having to leave Kili as the beginning of tragedy and then cuts to a shot of a girl at the gates. For reference the UN left Libya since the NATO airstrikes. They have also evacuated most staff from Iraq at various times, in the face of US airstrikes.
The issue is really framing. Psychologically, people seem able to accept civilian death as long as the fight is against terrorists. Hence western populations accept hundreds of thousands of deaths as long as they’re in the ‘service’ of overthrowing dictators. While most people put Prabhakaran up there with Hussein or Gaddafi in terms of terrorism and brutality, it isn’t presented that way. While Channel 4 mentions the ills of the LTTE, they don’t really frame it this way. Instead the fall of Kili and the LTTE is shown as a primarily civilian disaster with terrorist footnotes. But it wasn’t. It was a brutal and ruthless attack on the LTTE. They say ‘this was an unequal war’ as if that was a bad thing. But what was Channel 4 hoping? For an equal force of suicide bombers and terrorists to occupy half the island? Honestly, the answer seems to be yes.
This is sad, because there really were killing fields. People were herded and corralled into a narrow region and they did die. It was a horribly, bloody end to the war. I wish that Channel 4 had documented that without taking sides and saying that the war shouldn’t have ended at all. The idyll they show being disturbed (LTTE occupation and power) was actually a living hell. Thank God that ended. May God have mercy that it ended this way.
I have to go to work so will watch the rest of it later. Let me know if you’ve watched and what you think.
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I met an old-timer who said they used to drop acid and sleep atop Sigiriya, but the place has taken on a more commercial and quasi-spiritual role now. It was built by a king as a sort of retreat and used as a monastery. Now it’s a prime tourist and cultural destination. Hence it’s a bit odd to see a Japanese beer commercial shot up there. There’s a bunch of people eating, um, deep fried cream filled coconuts and then drinking some bracing beer. I hear the whole thing cost Rs. 25,000 (I’m presuming they used stock images).
I think the Channel 4 documentary does point to the fact that Ceylonese Tamils have friends. The GOSL cannot by iteself impose their will on the Tamils, because it cannot prevail in a confrontation against the US/UN etc. This is in stark contrast to the US’s actions where there is no one to challenge them. They can get away with muder, SL can’t. This concept is known as power. If you don’t like it, join the Taliban and take up the fight again “global US hegemony”.
As human beings it’s important to have the wisdom to realize what we can and cannot change in the world. Neither the Sinhalse or the Tamils have any control over the end game that’s unfolding on the island before our eyes. Not a single Sinhalese or Tamil will be consulted when the UNSC finally takes up the matter, and unilateraly decides whether or not the GOSL is guilty of genocide. SL is soveriegn, yes, but we are fooling ourselves if we think we are more sovereign or less strategically importand than Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan.. the list goes on and on.
What we can do is to use our common sense, be pragmatic, and figure out which way the winds are blowing. And at the moment there is a steady gust of wind blowing us slowly but surely towards Eelam.
@ Patriot,
I disagree. The Sinhalse,Tamils, Muslims, Christians and Burghers DO have control over the end game. All they need to do is get on to the streets en mass and boot out the Despotic Rajapaksas’ just like Tunisians did in Tunisia…the Egyptians did in Egypt and the Libyans are doing right now in Libya…
I would like to congratulate Mahinda mamaa and his patriotic government on brainwashing Indi’s UNP mind. But I don’t think I should, because Indi doesn’t believe a word he writes. It just impossible to state what’s in the average UNPer’s mind. They want a few people hanged. That’s the truth. Mahinda’s success is making it impossible for them to say it even at their homes. Declaring you’re an atheist or a homosexual or a transsexual or whatever would be easier than saying that you want a few hanged.
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I don’t know what Ch. 4′s agenda is, but when I watched this “killing fields” thing, I just thought they were highlighting the fact that war crimes were committed by both sides during the final stages of the war, and no seems likely to be held responsible for these crimes.
Crimes including rape, torture and murder were undoubtedly committed by SL Army soldiers during the final stages of the war, despite what the likes of David Blocked Ass would have you believe.
The question is, are we going to accept this fact, and if so, what are we going to do about it?
That was a pretty gruesome video… it also establishes beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that the soldiers had direct orders from their higher-ups to execute surrendering LTTE, which is what SF initially told Frederica Janz (irrespective of what he claims now). The video was somewhat biased towards the LTTE, but let’s keep in mind that the Tamils took the brunt of the atrocities towards the end of it. Besides, GOSL did not allow Channel 4 free access to interview IDP camp inmates, so GOSL shouldn’t expect fish buns here.
lol..whats funny is LTTE did run banks but they didnt have the money, so they had to use Sri Lankan ruppees.
@ Bonchi Baba…
So your back…where were you all these days? In the North & east desecrating LTTE graves? Or putting up Buddha statues and building Buddhist temples? Or grabbing land that belongs to the Tamils?
i know you missed me! ;) its ok …mamas here now…
Buddhist Stupa, Sinhala colony in the making in Mullaiththeevu
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=34084
*snigger*
What ever you say to justify, to end a 30 years old war you just can’t kill 40,000 Tamils in 2 weeks. Its not just wrong, its inhuman.
The war was not unequal. This was not the US fighting the Iraqi resistance guerrillas, but a conventional battle between two not dissimilar armies. The Sri Lanka Government certainly had air superiority, but not control, as was seen when Air Tiger planes attacked targets around Colombo. Until the last few months of the war, the sea conflict was also balanced – the only thing the SL Navy had to match the Tiger attack boats was the antiquated Chinese-built Shanghai class gunboats.
On the ground, it should be pointed out, it was the LTTE which always cranked the level up a notch – it was the LTTE which introduced mines, automatic weapons (the SL army had hitherto been equipped with British-style FN SLRs), night vision equipment, heavy mortars, body armour, guided missiles and (incredibly) Multi-barrel rocket launchers.
Yes, the LTTE possessed heavy artillery in abundance, not just MBRLs but also 150-155mm howitzers. The devastation visible on either side of the road from Elephant Pass to Muhamalai was caused equally by the artillery of the Sri Lanka army and the LTTE.
The bulk of civilian casualties appear to have been caused by the Sri Lanka Artillery firing back at Tiger guns and MBRLs located in civilian areas. The import of this cannot be understood fully if the combat is equated to Vietnam – it was more like the Western Front in World War I
I just had a look at the tape. Some of the most horrific sequences appear authentic. I hope someone quickly proves me wrong on that. It’s not the way I had pictured how the POWs were treated. I hope they were isolated incidents. I hope there will be some genuine investigation here, I dont know how that can happen.
I hope that girl Vani Kumar is lying. I dont much care about the top Tigers dying. They allowed those young boys and girls out there knowing full well what could happen to them if they were captured by soldiers hardened by months on the battlefield. I hope Adele Balasingham is happy she’s safe while all those girls suffered so brutally. Death would have been welcome to them.
All those sick people who helped the Tigers get where they were, all their tears now cannot absolve them of some responsibility.
@ shammi
Your honest. That’s nice. Unlike some of the other’s here and elsewhere who will never accept anything even when there is overwhelming evidence. I too don’t give a flying f**k either about LTTE dudes and dudettes being killed…it’s the indiscriminate killing of unarmed civilians that gets me worked up. I too watched the video.
It was the Tigers who forced the people to run in to positions where they would be cornered and in the line of fire. They even positioned their guns in the middle of civilians in order that civilians would be in the way of the army targets. If the army hadn’t taken out those guns, those civilians would have died of hunger, just the way the Tigers wanted. It was the Tigers who didn’t care how many civilians died for their cause. In fact, I’m sure they would have tried to increase the number of civilian deaths in order to get the international community to intervene.
But civilians did die. I think it needs to be acknowledged. But it’s being denied because that will be the only excuse those supporting the Eelamists need to intervene in our affairs. The right thing would be to have a committee representing all sections to have a genuine domestic inquiry, and that wont happen because inevitably someone will try to take political advantage of the situation.
The Taliban do the same thing in Afghanistan, e.g. hide behind civilians. If NATO, which has far more powerful weapons than the piss poor SLA, applied the same level of force, there wouldn’t be much remaining in that country. You don’t just destroy every obstacle in your way to get at the enemy. That’s not how modern wars are fought. It’s about more than just winning; there’s actually a political process involved, believe it or not.
The army opened up routes for the civilians to escape. They didn’t shoot their way in. They did have to silence the guns that were hindering them though. If not, there would h ave been no army to rescue the civilians who would have been allowed to starve to death. You must live in a dream world if you believe a political process was an option at that point. Is this the dumb Heshan or the dumber one?
Naato forces with all their sophistication should definitely be able to fight cleaner. But they still executed an unarmed Bin Laden. Dont talk to me about how America and NATO fight wars. I dont have the time to educate you.
The general consensus amongst a lot of people seems to be that they aren’t particularly fussed about LTTE cadres being raped, tortured and then executed without a fair trial.
Interesting.
It seems to be quite acceptable behaviour, from a Sri Lankan (Singhala) point of view. They deserve it, of course, and its ok for any SL Army soldier in the field to act as judge, jury and executioner – after all, they are ranawiruwas and worthy of Singhala admiration and respect.
The army opened up routes for the civilians to escape.
What a load of BS.
(1) The SLA intentionally shelled hospitals (Gothabaya said on live TV that hospitals are fair targets).
(2) The SLA intentionally shelled NFZ’s
(3) The SLA intentionally murdered unarmed POWs
(4) The SLA prevented foreign organizations from being observers at places where civilians crossed over to government lines
In general, the SLA terrorized the civilians with so much artillery and bombardments that the civilians were forced to head to the Army side just to live . If the civilians had had any other choice, they would have stayed with the LTTE. So this BS about opening routes for the civilians to escape is a load of BS. As for the LTTE, it was running out of both firepower and manpower; it’s “big guns” did not pose much thread to the SLA, which had complete air superiority, land superiority, and naval superiority. Go and read Mahavamsa if you don’t know what a blockade is.
Dont talk to me about how America and NATO fight wars. I dont have the time to educate you.
Take your Rupavihini/government school education and shove it up your ass. The Taliban are a far more formidable opponent than the LTTE, but NATO has restricted its firepower. Everything is not a fair target in Afghanistan/Pakistan, but terrorist leaders sure as hell are. No one is shedding crocodile tears for billionaire terrorist leaders that decide to play jihad with the world’s only superpower… no one perhaps, except some 3-celled Sinhala-Buddhist apologist such as yourself.
Heshan, the Tigers did all that you claim the SLA did. We dont need dubious witnesses to prove that. (Someone should analyse that Vani Kumar’s body language or give her a lie detector test) I am not denying that civilians died, of course. Though it’s a little hard for us to accept, war is like that.
The proof for what the Tigers did is all out there and responsibility has been proudly claimed. But the Tigers went even further. They gave weapons and cyanide capsules to women and CHILDREN and set them loose in the jungles.
Before the firepower ran out, the food would have. Only someone like you would believe that the big cats would starve before allowing the civilians to die of hunger.
What is with you and government schools? Having attended a private school myself, it is clear to me where your value system comes from, if you actually did attend a private school as you take pains to try to convince us, though your preoccupation with this seems to indicate otherwise. You would believe that superpowers are allowed to do anything.
There’sno point telling you about the numbers of dead and dispaced in Iraq and Afghanistan before the superpowers got the terrorist leaders because you have difficulty accepting facts.
I am not going to say any more on this. Especially not to you. I’m just going to watch with an open mind and see what happens. Whatever you or I say wont change anything about what happened. We’ll all get to know the truth eventually.
p.s.: Despite the ch 4 videos, British immigration authorities seem to think it’s safe enough here to allow Tamils to be sent back.
BS, the Tigers only killed a few people that tried to go to the Army side. The fact of the matter is, these people were getting along just fine under Tiger rule until Jarapakse decided to wage his total war. The vast majority of civilian casualties, as well as the total destruction of the homes and livelihoods of these people, can be directly attributed to the Sri Lankan Army. I have seen pictures of soldiers even removing the roofing and window tiles from empty houses, to sell on the black market. Not only that, they went into the remaining houses and stole various valuables. Everyone knows what they did to the Tiger cemeteries.
Anyone can go anywhere in Iraq and Afghanistan to do their own body count, so no need to accuse the Americans of a cover-up.
What about Sorry Lunketistan? If the truth is like you claim, why are neutral observers prevented from investigating?
@Shammi
You say, “Someone should analyse that Vani Kumar’s body language or give her a lie detector test.”
HOW ABOUT GIVING GOATPAKSHA AND MAHINDA A LIE DETECTOR TEST? Then we can find out everything from weather orders were given to target civilians in the “Please Don’t Fire Zone” to who killed Lasantha and made Pradeep Eknaligoda vanish into thin air???
We can also get to know if 800 million was paid through Emil Kaanthan to the LTTE by the Rajapaksa brothers to stop Tamils from voting in the 2005 PresiDunce Erection. Also where the “Helping Hum-Bug-Thotta Tsunami Aid money went? And much much more…
ps. Man is only a half-tame animal who has for generations governed others by deceit, cruelty and violence, and in this respect The Rajapaksa Family Dictatorship are up there with the the best! Now THIS is what you call an ASS Chariya…
I am sure 90% of the people in SL would help a genuine investigation on civilian casualties. There are people who suffer due to the civil war in all parts of the country. They need help. Bringing the culprits to the book is good, but poor people of this country need something more than that to rebuild their lives. The unfortunate fact is that people who talk about dead ones forget the needs of suffering fellow people.
War is ugly. War is nothing but killing each other. The party which is good at killing wins the war. Specially when civilians are trapped or targeted by warring parties, it becomes uglier. There were millions of civilian casualties in WWs; Several hundred thousand casualties in Iraq war; Several hundred thousand casualties in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh wars. There is nothing called humane war. It’s just a myth.Portuguese and Britishers killed 1000s of Sri Lankans to win wars and make SL a colony.
It is good to do an investigation on civilian casualties. That’s the civilized way. None of the so called civilized countries have done it. There have been some isolated “eyewash” type investigations, nothing more than that.
Dear podda,
could you please tell us how you came up with the 90% figure? If it was just guess work…here are also my guess work figures. Of the 69% Sinhala Buddhists maybe 5% or 10% will support a genuine investigation on civilian casualties. Of the 31% minorities…most would welcome an investigation. You said, “There is nothing called humane war.” But the Rajapaksas’ say that the war was a “Humanitarian Operation” with “Zero Casualties?” Isn’t this “eyewash?”And there are plenty of Sinhala Buddhists who actually believe this “eyewash!” The whole of Sri Lanka today has become one big military camp. Where ever you walk you will find every 20 metres armed forces and police with their guns trying to look important. When will the armed forces be confined to barracks and only the police be kept on duty? It will not happen as long as the Rajapaksas’ are in power. It is not civilized to be a military state. Sri Lanka today is one. Sad situation indeed and the people just don’t care.
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2011/06/19/uniformed-muscle-to-maintain-cricket-stadiums/
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2011/06/19/killing-fields-and-sri-lanka/
@ Lefroy
Your rants are pathetic and mind numbingly boring.
Seriously, grow up now. Or get laid. Or lost.
Biscuits,
Call your momma and ask about my sex life. I took your advice.
You’ve gone and done it again, haven’t you? You were advised by your doctors. If you cannot act your age, then you don’t go and show it in public, little lefroy.
Rangouk,
Hey, it wasn’t my fault that your mom turned out to be a paedophile. Thanks for paying the doctor for me.
Is there anything new in this videos or is it simply regurgitation of what we’ve seen before
This is a big issue in the UK. It may be to us things we’ve all seen before, but to the UK population (tamil diaspora) included, it has been a “shocker”. And as indi has correctly pointed out, Channel 4 has failed to show the other side, completely. It is an open and all out attack on Sri Lanka and its government. The tamil diaspora are loving it, you should see their attitudes changed.
What is required for this, is an unequivocal rebuttal and reminder to the international community what had taken place in the past 30 years. Just like they love reminding the world about 9/11 and 7/7.
The first video where a bunch of bound men are shot in a field, the one we’ve seen before, looks fake. But there are others where people seemed to be shot in the head and executed that seem real, and it looks really wrong, whatever the circumstances. It’s the way that it was done that is so horrifying. Maybe they couldn’t take prisoners, didn’t have the means to hold them, (though it still doesn’t make it right) but it’s sick that it was filmed, like taking a trophy.
There’s one which shows young girls, clearly raped, being callously loaded on to trucks one on top of the other. It looked real. One girl wasn’t even dead, she was still moaning. The guy who calmly filmed that is surely sick.
Then there was an allegation that people regularly disappeared from the refugee camps, that rape was common in the camps. I hadn’t believed that this could be true. I had imagined that those refugees were treated with utmost kindness even if rations were short and conditions were poor, but now I’m not so sure.
I still dont want an international investigation, because it’s clear the diaspora doesn’t really care about their people, only want revenge, and if possible, Eelam. But I would like to be assured, by our people that those people who fled the tigers were not randomly raped or tortured.
How do you know they were raped? Honestly? I’m not saying that kind of thing could not have taken place, quite possibly may have. But was it systematic, and encouraged by the higher ups or just isolated cases?
You can’t let emotions run wild. That’s what the documentary does, it just presents everything as if they were fact.
What did those images make you think? That they were partly undressed to search for weapons? Sometimes just their breasts and pubic area exposed? If those were faked, it was done in a very clever way. I fervently hope those are doctored, but I dont think so.
I dont believe it was encouraged. I always imagined the army acted in a more descipined manner. I want to be reassured though. If they only showed that they were genuinely interested in investigating anything that ooked like evidence, we would have more people believing us.
I want to know for sure that the people who flocked to the camps didn’t live in fear of rape and death.
It’s standard operating procedure to strip all the dead naked to search for weapons, documents, whatever. It’s done by both sides to males and females. Ch4 only shows the naked women. Teenaged soldiers obviously will make crude jokes. It’s not the Boy Scouts.
No one thinks it’s strange that while we have so much footage of what we’re told are the aftermaths of shelling, there isn’t a single shot of a shell actually hitting anything? And no one thinks it’s weird that there’s footage of executions but none of rape?
There was a huge credibility gap between what we saw and what we were told we were seeing.
There must be some footage around.
Check with your army sources and see if urgent orders have been sent out regarding mobile phones and cameras.
Apparently orders have gone out not to film Martians or Elvis either, though I’m sure there’s footage of that waiting for Ch4 too.
Ha ha very funny Blacker.
@ Anon…its not Blacker…it’s BlockHead…when hell of a comedian always playing funny buggers on groinviews
and indis forum…
Blacker: “It’s standard operating procedure to strip all the dead naked to search for “:
1. Is this covered in the military manuals or laws of war?
2. If so can you quote relevant sources?
Some good commentary on the video here:
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2011/06/19/killing-fields-and-sri-lanka/
@ shammi…keep on dreaming…honda honda sellang eli wenna jaa mayta…there are probably some more videos and pics that have still not seen the light of day…and some of the soldiers who took them must be falling over themselves trying to sell it to the diaspora and foreign TV channels…
Exactly the point. If there’s 1 video, then it means there’s 100′s of such videos. Silly Lunketans who scream about no evidence must surely be knowing they are surrounded by a mountain of evidence? Or is the 4th brain cell missing here.
What is funny is that not a single soldier testified at LLRC. Of course His Highness GR made a special appearance (I guess to scare any future witnesses).
So according to Blockhead, it’s standard procedure for Sorry Lunket Animals (SLA) to keep photos and videos of dead and mutilated corpses. There you heard it folks, right from the main artery.
@ Heshan
Yes Heshan…straight from the horses ass (not mouth). That is David BlockHead’s ass… :)
I have lost all respect for western media and journalism as a whole. There’s no such thing as “reporting the truth”.
They are all biased. rupavahini, sirasa, al jazeera, bbc, cnn, bahh… This is all because Sri Lanka is aligning with China/Russia etc. When they sling mud, they sling at everyone. Sad thing is, unlike these other alies of ours, we’re an easy target, due to faults of our own.
And the fucking pro-ltte diaspora. Fuck those cunts. They don’t set foot in the country and funded a war that waged in predominately tamil areas and now they are all angels of human rights. I hope they all burn in hell over and over.
@rangouk…
HOW DID THE DIASPORA BECOME THE DIASPORA IN THE FIRST PLACE??? You speak about the pro-ltte diaspora…so what about the Sinhala Buddhist racist sons of the soil that have been around for the past 63 years???
“HOW DID THE DIASPORA BECOME THE DIASPORA IN THE FIRST PLACE??? ”
They ran away from Sri Lanka as fake refugees.
Mahinda is crooked, but he’s not the type to butcher 40K Tamils in 2 weeks. Mahinda is merely an accomplice. The whole thing was engineered by Gothabaya. As I explained in a detail a while ago, Gothabaya is a genuine psychopath. Bugger would kill 100K civilians in a single day, if it made him feel better. Unfortunately, given the lack of any coherent dividing line between the ruling establishment and the military in SL, Gothabaya’s ruthlessness and Mahinda’s wish for political expediency resulted in a monumental civilian catastrophe. CBK did not cross this line (though her uncle Ratwatte was Defense Minister); neither did any of her predecessors. The village bugger MR, however, could care less about checks and balances – hence his appetite for radical extremist approaches to situations that require more delicate handling. End result? Well, for starters, the events depicted in the CH 4 tape.
Ok buddy. Hiroshima and nagasaki. The death of countelss german civilians and? Do we talk of those after the world wars ended and call the likes of churchill who had to make difficult decisions psychopaths? Fuck right off.
The problem is we’re living in 2010, not 1945. If you want to go back to the 1940′s, let’s begin with your buddy Japan, which killed 23 million Chinese civilians. The Japanese were lucky all they got was two lousy atom bombs.
Oh sure, these things don’t happen now right? Take a look at the middle east.
And you’re trying to compare Gothabaya to Churchill? Hahahahaha… listen you dumbfuck, the Nazis were a threat to the entire civilized world. If they had actually conquered all of Europe like they planned, the next thing they would have done is help the Japanese finish conquering Asia. This includes your Silly Lunket. The Japanese are no LTTE either; they would chopped your thala thel uncle’s ball’s off and bayoneted your great-grandmother after gang-raping her. Be glad Churchill rescued you.
You want to start with the Japanese? What about the americans and the native american population they pretty much annihilated?
I’m not taking sides, I’m just trying to make you see why you only apply something to someone and not others? The answer is simple, it’s politics. The past few days have really opened my eyes to this ludicrous game where they all pretend to care, but that show is only used for something else. They all do it. Including Mahinda.
This world needs a dramatic change in the way things are done.
What the Americans did to the Native Americans is nothing compared to what the Spanish did in South America.
Also, the Americans have made great amends to the Native Americans, which I doubt you know anything about. Compare with Sorry Lunket; the whole North-East is basically one big military zone, where Tamils are treated like cattle.
So its all ok as long as you kiss and make up? The worlds always been like this, because you all buy in to this bull shit. Whosever side you’re on. Take a step back and look at it all, maybe you’ll understand, maybe you won’t. Doesn’t matter cause you’re more interested in my political affiliation cause I swore at you out of utter disgust at the whole system the world works in. I was merely pointing out hypocrisy, and no one is exempt from it, including you, as you’ve shown.
I’m moving to the mountains, fuck this world.
Whatever the world is, there’s something called “history.” You can’t compare 2010 to 1845 or 1945. Otherwise let’s talk about how your Kandyan kings tied people to two horses and drew them apart…
Killing people by horse, compared to killing scores at the drop of a bomb. It is not about what is worse, it is about the human condition that has not changed, whether it is 1845 or 1945. You keep missing my point, I know it is because you have a preconception of me, based on the little outburst I had there earlier.
What I am getting at probably does not belong on a political blog post.
And stop saying mine, it is mine as much as it is yours.
The human condition has improved a lot since 1945. Why don’t you do a little research into the history of that bomb… (I) if it had not been dropped, millions of people would have died (because a land invasion would have been necessary), (II) it was built in the first place only because it was thought the Nazis would build one, (III) the USA could not have built it without the help of many foreign Jewish scientists (including many Nobel Prize winners), (IV) the Japanese could have avoided both bombs had they surrendered, (V) the second bomb was dropped because the Japanese refused to surrender after the first one……….
Once again, get your head out of Mahavamsa and stop trying to equalize everything.
” the Nazis were a threat to the entire civilized world. ”
And the LTTE were a threat to Sri Lanka, and also India. And they got fucked.
Oh yeah while I’m at it, what about Donald Rumsfeld? Why don’t they do a documentary on Iraq and why don’t you class him a psychopath too?
Rumseld personally apologized for Abu Grahib. Get your facts right, bozo.
Apologised eh? Yeah as long as that’s done, lets play politics. So forget about the people who were actually killed. Try to look at the bigger picture, ass wipe.
Yeah, let’s see Gothabaya Psychofucksa admit to even 1 single stray bullet; then you might have a point.
Now that I cannot argue with. Once again, you’re pissed off at me for something I’m not guilty of. I’m just sick of every bodies hypocrisy and their politics. That’s what led to those people dying in the north and people dying everywhere else. So take your fucking political fancy and shove it up your ass.
So you admit your cardboard hero Psychofucksa is incapable of admitting a mistake? Good, good… coz’ there’s gonna be many more mistakes to come; let’s see how well you dance to his tune.
hehe…According to Heshan….murder, torture, rape etc are OK as long as the person says SORRY!….
@ Totta & rangouk…ever heard of King Asoka and Angullimala? At least they made amends…they admitted their faults and changed their lives. If the RajaPakayas of this country admit they made mistakes and get the fuck out of Silly Lunket and let it be a democracy once again and not a DemoCrazy like it is now…some of us might forgive them…but we can never forget!
“The Japanese were lucky all they got was two lousy atom bombs.”
Lovely Tamil Christian charity on display. Jesus would be proud of you.
According to Heshan….murder, torture, rape etc are OK as long as the person says SORRY!…
Actually it’s something called “diplomacy”. Next time MR gets kicked out of Oxford Union, don’t bother asking why, coz’ you’ll know.
I can’t wait to get out of this cess pool of a country where everything stops for kings and queens to get married. Where a man once who tried to blow up parliament and once called a terrorist is now celebrated with fireworks once a year. Hypocrites. I hope they all burn in hell too.
Fuck face heshan, churchill was right to do what he did. But apparently gothabaya was wrong for what he did. Sure. Keep making yourself feel better, your knowledge of history is prize worthy, but that doesn’t make you exempt from seeing the bigger picture.
Prabhakaran didn’t throw babies into ovens; you dumb retard. What part of “Holocaust” do you not get?
Yes putting babies in an oven kills them a litte less than sending them to the front lines with guns in hand and cyanide capsule around neck. Look buddy, I’m dancing to nobodies tune. This is a wake up call, the world is fucked and its best left alone so the likes of you can take sides and kill each other.
If not directly, indirectly, by supporting who ever you support to do whatever they do.
Listen genius, if Prabhakaran had killed 6 million civilians and declared war on 20 countries, having already invaded 30 countries, no one would really give a rat’s ass about some UN Report. Prabhakaran is not even a pimple on Hitler’s arm, so stop comparing GR to Churchill.
Its not the scale of whatever was done. It is the actual deed and what led to it and the result of it. Prabahakran, Churchill, GR, Hitler. All the same in the end.
Death and destruction for some ideology, accession of power, whatever it is. We tend to think we support the better side, but we all leave a trail of death and destruction behind. Why don’t you admit that, without comparing things.
Not all the same…….. only a a total and utter dumbass would compare Prabhakaran to Hitler. Hitler caused the deaths of more than 40 million people. The entire SL war resulted in about 100K dead. Stop comparing apples to raisins.
Not all, but at an abstract point, yes.
@ rangouk…WHY DO YOU USE Prabahakran, Churchill, and Hitlers full names…but call GoatPaksha GR? Scared? And for God’s sake if you don’t like England get the fuck out of there and come and live in “The DemoCrazy TheoCrazy International ConsPirazy and All Time Utopia of Sri RajaPakistan!”
…yea come and see and feel the difference….come and see for your self how the Silly Lunkets…the biggest hypocrites in the world live!
This guy Rangouk is an utter idiot. Native Americans? Ridiculous. What about Vijaya fucking kuweni and mass murder her people? Bullshit. This fucking idiot is talking about a time when even the brightest of men did have no fucking idea about human rights or war crimes. Fuckwit may also be thinking that Native Americans waved white flags.
Again with the sides. It as if none of you can understand, there has to be sides apparently. You guys won’t understand.
The SL Government’s dumb fucking mistake was letting the village idiots in the Army to carry mobile phones to the battlefields so that they can talk to their girlfriends in their spare time because otherwise those girls might cheat on those stupid boys. GoSL got rid of INGO including even the Red Cross, they kicked of the international reporters, they killed eyewitnesses, but forgot that mobile phones had cameras, and that their soldiers were young village idiots who have no fucking idea about where the hell Geneva is.
Shammi,
I think it was Osama’s wife who didn’t have a gun.
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Whatever the NATO or US Military do, there is at least a system, however ineffective, to punish war criminals. In our stupid country there is no such system, and war criminals have complete impunity. So now we have killers, torturers, rapists and all the sick fucks that God has ever made, walking among us, and getting hired by politicians and the underworld bigshots.
What do you expect when you have people in government tying people to trees?
The funny thing about all these forums on war crimes, it is the Americans who are blamed the most. What’s the logic here? Since Mervyn kills, bombs and burns and still remains a Minister and a parliamentarian, every sucker in this island get the right to do so?
The reason that is so is because they are just at fault for playing politics. If they were really unbiased and true, they would not have shown such a one sided flow of events.
They are playing the game of politics, just as the rest are.
I guess you’re asking why I am more critical of them. Because in the overall picture, I see they are the ones responsible for the way the system is right now. They created it. If it weren’t them, I supposed it would have been someone else. No point blaming anyone now, I just want the whole system to change. How? I’m moving to the mountains.
Ejecting myself from a society so caught up in itself that it refuses to take a step back and reflect on itself as a whole.
You should eject yourself into traffic, once and for all.
And so the denial continues… get back to work fool.
@ Heshan…that was a good one…the one about rangouk ejaculating himself into traffic…maybe he should do it when a ministerial convoy is passing by…but first he has to get the fuck out of England and come and seek political asylum in “The DemoCrazy TheoCrazy International ConsPirazy and All Time Utopia of Sri RajaPakistan”before any ejaculating into traffic can be done… :)
ohhh….listen up ppl…pls do not blame the Americans…coz it annoys little Lefroy!….paawam…
Thotta,
What annoys me even more is the fact that you have no brain but somehow still manges to write.
Lefroy,
awwww….the comments are annoying little Lefroy. go go…..run to your mother…
Thotta,
Well, the last time someone said it to me I mistakenly ran to your mother and it resulted in you: a brainless retard. This time I prefer not to heed.
They should make such videos for Vietnam, Japan, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc. hypocrites!!!…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdrCR-X4iH0&feature=relmfu
It was a bloody WAR we fought. We fought and We Won. Doesn’t matter how hard you cry, YOU WONT GET YOUR ELAM. Keep Dreaming suckers !
Correction: JARAPAKSE and his sadist brother PSYCHOFUCKSA won. Now they’ve basically handed over the country to China and the IMF to be micromanaged, while they get rich off the commissions. If you consider this a victory, well, good luck wit that. I promise you Sorry Lanka will be the same or worse dump 20 years from now, when BAR EXAM prodigy Namal sits on the throne.
Dear Dil…try figuring out what Heshan said…”BAR EXAM prodigy Namal sits on the throne.” Most probably it will happen in our lifetime…and our idiots will clap with both hands…Scream Jaya…way…waaa…Maaa..throoo…boo..meeya…drink some arrack and kola kenda….break out the kiribath…and live in their fantasy world where they think Silly Lunket is the Greatest nation on earth…
Dil…you wont live forever…just check out about how many NEW countries have been created since 1945….that is called evolvment…new countries are formed…old countries break up…ever heard of divorce? Amongst men and women?
It’s worth noting that US and UK are the top two market to our exports, representing 21% and 12%. These two countries can fuck up our island of development funds even without a UNSC resolution by simply unilaterally putting up trade sanctions against us. We can certainly try doing some ‘Bodi Pooja’ to make the Russians and Chinese want to buy our stuff (do Chinese women wear lingerie?).
Fucking dickwads.