The Fonseka Verdict

Anoma Fonseka at a press con after the verdict, via Sunday Leader


Simply as a point of reference, what’s happening now is completely upside down. The General who led the war against the LTTE is going to jail while the people he fought against are given Ministries and NGOs to run. As another point of reference, what matters now is not any particular loyalty to the nation, but a loyalty to the President Mahinda Rajapaksa. Like everything Mahinda has done, there are other ways to do things, but he’s still the only one doing anything. I think, however, there is a better way. General Sarath Fonseka committed no crime except running for office the right, democratic way. It was Mahinda who used state resources during the campaign and used the Army to secure the result. But by simply running, Fonseka violated the law of the land, which is man, which is Mahinda Rajapaksa. The trial was a farce and, as is fitting, the verdict went up to Mahinda for ultimate approval. That’s all it is. Whom he approves and whom he disapproves, so the head of the Army is out, the arms procurer for the LTTE is in.

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Ruki
2010-10-01 00:20:30

Bye bye fonny boy! Don’t cry too hard now. The moron was threatening to send others to jail and now look where he’s going now. As big a loser as Ranil…wait, even worse than Ranil cos at least Ranil is still the leader of the opposition while Fonseka has nothing.

 
Poobalam
2010-10-01 01:48:48

Ha ha ha… we like it… needs more alike…

 
Rajah
2010-10-01 01:58:45

“Simply as a point of reference, what’s happening now is completely upside down. The General who led the war against the LTTE is going to jail while the people he fought against are given Ministries and NGOs to run.”

You just skimmed the surface with that comment. Do remember that KP, while in full control and custody of the Rajapakses, gave an interview to the daily mirror where he unequivocally refers to Prabhakaran as “Thalaiver”, or “the leader”. Nowhere in the entire interview does he disrespect Prabhakaran by referring to him in any way less. Obviously, this has to be in line with government policy, for otherwise, KP would not have the ability to do so, him being under complete control of the government. Sarath Fonseka on the other hand has been stripped of his rank by the regime and so today in Sri-Lanka, no one can call him “General”. The irony is just too sweet. 16 months after the war, and Prabhakaran is still “Thalaiver” in full view and tolerance of the Sri-Lankan government, but Sarath Foneska is no more a General, just plain old Fonseka……Who would have ever imagined!!! As the tamils say, rain or shine, dead or alive, in this world or the next, generals and leaders come and go, but Prabhakaran will always remain “Thalaiver”.

 
Poobalam
2010-10-01 02:55:29

Rajah you nailed it, very well put in perspective.

 
2010-10-01 05:55:17

It is another sad episode of the war, I don’t know how many more are awaiting. I was reading that there is another civil suit against Fonseka that could give him another 20 Years.

 
Acromantula
2010-10-01 08:49:25

well u have to remember SF actually asked for it. He tried to destroy the nation with his “white flag” comments. I think he was just bitter at the people for not voting for him and wanted to harm the good name of Sri Lanka. I really dont like the outcome, but he needs to be made an example for future traitors.

SF’s main mistake was not running against MR, but being bitter at people for not going to vote for him even though he was a war hero. I think if SF actually conducted a fair and patriotic election campaign instead of bowing down to TNA/USA/NGOs people would rise up against such a verdict. But as it stands the common opinion is that he got what he deserves.

Ruki
2010-10-01 09:32:21

Agree.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-04 11:14:45

Oi harry potter geek

“He tried to destroy the nation with his “white flag” comments. I think he was just bitter at the people for not voting for him and wanted to harm the good name of Sri Lanka. I really dont like the outcome, but he needs to be made an example for future traitors. ”

Are you serious??! You really do live in a fictional world don’t you, you complete and utter imbecile?

a. how do you equate the comment alleging that gota issued an order to kill surrendering LTTE personnel with a desire to “destroy the nation,” you delusional drama queen? Destroy the nation??! Do you even realize who you’re aiming that allegation at, you loony tune?

b. “I think he was just bitter at the people for not voting for him”
if you took your lithium on time like the good doctor told you to, you might just realize that this comment was made prior to the election. You may also realize that even the highly suspect results indicated that the good General received over 4 million votes.

c. “he needs to be made an example for future traitors”
Yes like they do in those book about the middle ages, no? We really should think about using tactics such as tying people to trees, displaying the bodies of hanged protesters and opposition members in the town square etc in our quest to ensure a disciplined, unquestioning society.

Why don’t you banish yourself to some imaginary forest or try and see if you can perform that Avada Kedavra or whatever on yourself, you fucked up arachnid?

 
 
Carasek
2010-10-01 10:22:19

@Acromantula

“he needs to be made an example for future traitors”

Really? This sort of language is the reserve of totalitarian states such as North Korea or Iran. States so fragile that their leaders think it too dangerous to preserve the rights of the citizen. Everything bows down to the executive, through direct force or manipulation of the state machine to pervert the rule of law.

You can’t have it both ways. Sri Lanka can only have a ‘good name’ if it is, as a bear minimum, willing to protect its own citizens (the most basic principle agreed by the founding nations – and all subsequent members – of the UN, for example). This demands that it is not ‘traitorous’ to raise examples worthy of investigation of potential serious abuses against citizens by the state machine.

The Sri Lanka that you and Ruki seem to favour, pretty much the Sri Lanka you have, does not have a ‘good name’. I’m surprised that you think it does or that it should.

Ruki
2010-10-01 10:24:23

Cry me a river.

Traitors should be lined up and shot. Or get an axe to the head like Prabhakaran did.

Fonseka tried to fuck the country and got fucked in return.

No tears here for him and his pig headedness.

Mahinda
2010-10-04 11:18:59

Oi Justin Timberlake, you should snort a line of coke and then shoot a bullet into your piglike head. That would bring tears of joy to many.

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Deveniya
2010-10-01 10:40:06

Hello Ruki,

I am in very bad situation now because of no job, and I am hoping you can give help to me.
Please tell me how to work for government like you and post the comments on blogs in their favour. I have friend who own internet cafe so I can access the internet anytime and I pass English at o level also.

Please give me the contact with the government. It will be great help to me.

Also can you tell how they are paying? Do they pay you on per month or are they paying per word or per post? You are posting many times, so I am think it is per post.

I also agree with you. Even if we have to type lies, now the only way to make living is to go and heththu wenna to the upfa and lick their slippers. Paw for the Fonseka sir, but he did not understand the reality no – he never realize that truth and real things are meaning nothing to our Sri Lanka people.

What to do?

Anyway please Ruki, I hope you can help.

Ruki
2010-10-01 11:52:33

Wow, you seriously need to sign yourself up for a class on ‘how to create funny jokes and write satirical articles’

Appalling.

Deveniya
2010-10-01 12:11:25

Thank you Ruki aiya.
Please tell me about these classes and also where to find the good article on internet showing sri lanka is better and better everyday.
I promise to do good job promote the government and also to tell how bad this Fonseka sir is. he is Betray country, no? But please I cannot do for free – I need small support from government like you are getting. Thaniyeng budu wenna hadanna epa ruki aiye. matath podi chance ekak denna…

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Samanmali
2010-10-01 12:21:08

Aiyo , Ruki Aiyya

I too am interested. Are you taking girls also? I am looking for job like that. Please tell how to join.

 
Devapura
2010-10-01 13:06:58

Nangi,
They are giving good package at MCNS with foreign training also. Many benefits with loan scheme, allowances and pansion. Getting low prices to go abroad in Mihin Air too. If you speak to an Uncle in the department they will get you in.

 
 
 
 
Dark Lord
2010-10-01 11:47:16

Not to undermine Fonseka’s contribution, but how do you say “the General who led the war against the LTTE “?

Have you forgotten the Air Force, Navy, Police and STF, Civil Defense Force and the decisions made by MR/GR including bringing back of SF when he was about to retire?

Ruki
2010-10-01 11:54:47

Exactly. The pig headed Fonseka and his supporters actually think that Fonseka single handedly won the war (while he was in a hospital bed on a saline drip and everyone else did the hard work). The pompous ass was in the army long before Mahinda ever came on the scene and he did fuck-all about the LTTE then, but is now screaming that he ‘saved’ the country. What a laugh.

Deveniya
2010-10-01 12:20:10

hello Ruki aiya.
This is also good, no, we must show that fonseka did nothing before HE President giving him position. There is problem with that wiki encyclopedia website, it is still having details about things like Operation Midnight Express and all. I am trying to remove but difficult. Also some other places they are saying that in ceasefire he was fighting for army side. I know a aiya at moratuwa uni who is good at these things, and I will ask him to help me to remove these details of Fonseka things before Mahinda sir.
Also aiya if you give that help I ask you, please…

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The way of the Dodo
2010-10-01 12:47:47

What are you saying Ruki, Fonny singlehandedly won the war. The man’s greatness is such that even Chuck Norris covers in fear at the sight of Fonny.

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Deveniya
2010-10-01 13:11:02

You are stupid fellow with stupid name only.

and i am also thinking you mean to type ‘cower’

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-01 14:33:19

oh dear, did that strike a nerve.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 14:56:27

No don’t worry, do do aiya, I am not nervous, ok?

I am giving you good advice, do do aiya, please stop the talking about the fonseka sir. He is very bad man these days and we must not bring attention to his past capabilities and actions, even if he save our sri lanka.

Also do do aiya, you write in very hi fi english but i google check your name and its means very stupid bird. he is an illang kana bird who just waited while people eat him. You not be like this, do do aiya. Don’t speak good of the fonseka sir these days, even if you like and support the fonseka sir. These days that is very very danger to you and also famili.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-01 15:22:58

Aney malli, gon part demmata kamak nehe. anith ayata kade giyath kamak nehe. But try to be genuinely funny, the diarrhea you’re excreting on the website is not even the slightest bit amusing.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-01 15:36:56

Oh one more thing, don’t you think my screen name is more than appropriate for dealing with washed up butt boys such as yourself.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 16:13:03

I say katha talk daanna epa, harida do do aiya…

 
Ruki
2010-10-01 16:18:49

Yeah, pretty shit attempts at humour deveniya.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 16:28:32

No humoor ruki aiya,
Please tell me how to make some money also from government like you. I will also go to the shop for government like you and scold the fonseka sir and the un and everyone else who talk against the great HE President sir…
I know you are getting money, otherwise why you are wasting your time telling lies?
Very difficult these days, ruki aiya…

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-01 17:09:37

Deveniya by any chance did your last job involve sending out SMs furiously on SF’s behalf.

Ane pow :(

 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 17:18:15

No but if fonseka sir had come to power then I run to him straight away, and talk to everyone about his great acts in killing the tigers fellows and being very honest and discipline and also courage and strong.
But he is losing in the election so I hate him. Now i love HE Pressident sir very much and also the great Namal sir, and hate the fonseka sir.

 
2010-10-05 10:42:00

Ha ha

 
Deveniya
2010-10-05 11:58:28

Hullo david blacker sir, how are you?
i hope you is not laugh at me but is laugh with me sir, because if you are laugh for honestly saying my thinkings, then i am hurt very much.
blacker sir, i have one advice from you to ask, because i am hearing you are army desert fellow but you are walking round like no problem.
I am not sure you are being absent, but someone is telling like that so I hope you are helping me.
my loku aiya became absent from army because he is scared of die by shooting from tiger fellows, and police are still searching.
many years now he is hide in dara maduwa behind our allapu house people.
please help.

 
2010-10-05 14:33:06

Actually I was laughing at Ruki and Dodo. Thanks, I think I’ll also build a small dara maduwa lol.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-05 15:07:47

Sir, this is not helping my loku aiya no sir…
he is already have the dara maduwa to stay, but very uncomfortable, he is saying.
he is wanting to police and army sirs to forget about he getting absent from army, so he can come out of the dara maduwa only. only rat, hoona and cockcoroach there for friend no.
if you know how to solution the absent problem we are giving you very much ping only… if you tell him how to go to solution absent problem and also go to german, then we are giving you godaaak ping and also one nangi.
please help. these hi fi colombo people only talking, not giving even small help to the game kolla. i ask ruki aiya for the job to put comment for government but he is keeping the job for himself also.
ayyo i don’t know why…

 
 
 
 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 12:07:35

Machang Voldemort,

Please stop asking questions like this one. If you continue to do this, the some of our sri lanka people will be remembering that it s the army that suffer most of the casualty and also are the ones who are capturing most tiger control places and killing the tigers fellows, and all was plan by Fonseka sir, who is leading army at that time. Some other people might also be remembering things like Karrannagoda not sending his ships even 40km next to coast because he is being scared of seatiger fellows and the Fonseka sir ordering sea tigers to be destroyed by rockets. Even this was film by rupavahini but karannagoda somehow stop the telecast of seatiger fellows being shot by army rocket.

Now the Fonseka sirs time is finished.

We must all be telling how bad fonseka is these days and giving the honour to HE President and Gotabhaya sir.

Even army is taking away pictures of fonseka sir. all sri lanka must be like this. It is proper sri lanka way.

You must learnt to be more sri lankan and support your president to hide these unnecessary facts about fonseka. Otherwise go away and read harry potter in different country.

This country now for rajapakse and supporters! Suba Anagathayak Wewa!

ps – Ruki aiya, this is good, no? can I please have money for this one? no money for plain tea even, these days…

 
2010-10-01 12:13:21

@Rajah

You’re right. I was shocked that KP still basically swears allegiance to Prabahakaran, and yet he’s buddies with Gota and trotted out to the media.

@Deveniya

What I don’t get is that chaps like Ruki were the same defending Fonseka when he was on the Rajapaksa team and slandering him when he’s off. I think it goes to my point that there isn’t ideology anymore, there’s just the king and allegiance to the king.

Dark Lord
2010-10-01 12:31:22

How about my question about “the General who led the war against the LTTE”?

 
Ruki
2010-10-01 16:22:46

I started hating Fonny the moment he tried to fuck up Sri Lanka with his “white flag” story to the Sunday Leader and when he laid in bed with the UNP and the JVP for political gain. Had he remained apolitical I would’ve supported him to the hilt but its pretty obvious he is just a pig headed, power-hungry ass. Not good for a military guy.

But look at yourself Indi; sucked up to Ranil Wickramsinghe like no one else (even running the UNP election website) and now you’re out there screaming against him. Double faced much?

Deveniya
2010-10-01 16:32:34

Don’t worry ruki aiya you don’t have to explain why you are talking bad of the fonseka sir..
Everyone understand.
I also understand well. I am also exact like you, ruki aiya, I know we will both sell our mother also if price is right. Don’t be shame ruki aiya. Many people like us in Sri Lanka. I am just like you, like small brother to you. Please help, ruki aiya… tell them to pay me also for going to shop and scolding…

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Deveniya
2010-10-01 12:28:20

I am respecting you indi aiya for reply to me, but I have to say you are bit stupid and ruki aiya very clever. Please don’t be offend, I am telling what I think and also try to help.

You are america or canada citizen and you have chance to go live in nice country and be with pretty woman and earn dollar and drive good car, but you are staying here and writing bad things against government which is not clever – sri lanka people not being like America people – they get manna if you say bad things, even if you are saying true things. I know you think this will help our country by showing truth, but you have to understand, aiya, truth mean nothing in sri lanka.

You give our fellows ‘something’ and bottle of gal and they will accept and fight for any truth you are telling them to.

Ruki aiya make good money for spreading government message and also he is very safe from white van fellow. I am true sri lankan fellow, so i go to side with money and power.

Budu saranai.

Deveniya
2010-10-01 12:46:45

Also Indi aiya,

you must not be blaming ruki aiya for supporting Fonseka sir then and putting on the ground and kicking now. Even Wimal sir is doing like that no, even great HE President sir also then telling he is greatest army commander, now telling anyone can do.

It is sri lankan way. You are still think like the America man. You must learn to understand the sri lankan man.

I too am supporting great HE President sir now, but if somehow fonseka sir manage to come back and become leader, them i must also start to remember that fonseka sir very honest and discipline and leading army to victory and finishing tiger fellows. But now, we must think like sri lankan and forget about fonseka sir, and only talk that he is bad man even if we know he is not bad man.

Also to Voldemort aiya, you must stop the stupid talking. If you want to know why some are saying that general is leading war, you must go to newspaper archive and read. But don’t talk about these things – its only helping to making people remember that fonseka sir is once upon a time hero, which is not good these days.

 
 
Carasek
2010-10-01 12:38:31

@Ruki

You clearly aren’t a follower of the insurance principle. If all traitors should be lined up and shot, no need for an impartial hearing, possibly no need for a hearing at all, then no one has any real protection against the whims of the State. Including you and your family.

MR isn’t immortal. No matter how much you are a fan of his, you seem to favour a system which allows for no effective rule of law, where ‘traitors’ are who the State says they are, where journalists are scared as their colleagues, trade unionists, printers and others lose their jobs or ‘disappear’. You give such support merely because you approve of MR – like George W Bush’s “with us or against us” approach – and in doing so you make yourself vulnerable to the next Emperor’s corruption, lies and vengeance.

Maybe you’re right and MR’s the best (only?) option for SL right now. But the developing approach to governance, accountability and the rule of law means there’s scant protection for the citizen now, and the momentum’s only going one way. The wheel keeps on turning – one day it might be your kid’s turn to be first against the wall. But I guess that’s a price you’re willing to pay for the gung-ho support you offer today for a system of governance that will last a generation. A little reflection on the dangers of rampant patriotism does no harm.

Ruki
2010-10-01 16:32:03

I support the current government because

(1) They fucked over the LTTE and brought an end to terrorist violence
(2) They have given Sri Lanka a political stability it hasn’t seen for a long, long time
(3) They are doing good things for the country’s infrastructure
(4) The economy is performing well
(5) They didn’t bend over to the west and let the LTTE go, and have developed good relations with India, China, basically all neighbouring countries.

I really don’t have much respect for Sri Lankan journalists or their journalism (there are a few whose articles I do enjoy reading). But in general, Sri Lankan “journalism” is piss poor. Just have a look at lankenews and lankatruth, dailynews and you get the idea. I don’t believe the media should have unbridled freedom to whatever the fuck they want. There ought to be rules and regulations. Look at the Sunday Leader – the editor admits they made an edictorial decision to go full out and support the Sarath Fonseka for president campaign — I mean what the fuck? You call that journalism?

And yes, previous governments have been just so much fucking better haven’t they?

Deveniya
2010-10-01 16:34:20

These facts are very good. i will also google check and find some. Or I will ask my aiya at Mora Uni to make and put more on the internet. I will give you these ones, also ruki aiya…

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Thanuri
2010-10-01 21:50:06

Newspaper endorsements of candidates are quite common:

See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/05/weekinreview/ideas-trends-taking-a-stand-why-newspapers-endorse-candidates.html

http://drakej70.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/should-newspapers-endorse-political-candidates/

The endorsement needs to be public, so that the readers are aware of it and the newspaper needs to differentiate between news, which should be reproduced as close to fact as possible and editorial comment where a slant to some candidate or idea is expected.

Should they endorse? The debate is open.

Use of public money, taxpayers money by the incumbent government to promote its candidate (through state owned media, use of vehicles, manpower, cash of state-owned businesses etc) is wrong. These are supposed to be used for the benefit of the general public, not for promoting a particular candidate.

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Ruki
2010-10-01 16:42:43

The day fonny goes to jail, the day Sri Lanka is on top of the world:

Sri Lanka stocks world’s top performer: Bloomberg data

Oct 01, 2010 (LBO) – Sri Lanka’s stocks closed up 2.1 percent Friday becoming the best performing market in the world, up 110.9 percent so far according to Bloomberg newswires data, beating Mongolia at 109.7 percent.

Bangladesh was a distant third at 56.4 percent. Colombo’s benchmark closed at 7,147 topping the 7,000 mark.

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=653863282

Deveniya
2010-10-01 17:25:16

I don’t know about the stocks market, ruki aiya, but this is great news. We are all celebrating that this has happened. Everyone in the world can see the great sri lanka country has done very well to put fonseka sir in welikada as punishment because he talk against HE President.

No one will dare to talk against the great HE president anymore. i am not worried anyway that people will talk against Pressident sir, because only fonseka sir is the one who does not go yes sir no sir three bags full sir like they have to.

does the government pay more to publicity these stocks markets information, ruki aiya?

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Carasek
2010-10-01 20:21:42

@ Ruki

All very impressive, and not to be sniffed at, but 110.9% of what? What’s the total value of the companies listed? How does that compare to other countries of similar size? Wouldn’t one expect that of a country that just ended a civil war? And clearly the growth has slowed massively (now at 2% or so?). SL isn’t leading the world anymore in market growth and SL never was in terms of the market value.

Stats only have any value if there is a context. China must have 8% growth or more just to keep going, but it started from a low starting point. It’s much harder for them to maintain those volumes of growth (see recent reports on mass strikes and wage inflation). If the US had growth of 8% it would make the growth of China and India pale in comparison by value.

Just look at your own stats: Mongolia beat SL into second with 109.7%. That suggests a tiny, tiny market in the first place. So, while good, it’s hardly all that much in the wider picture. Speaking to a senior partner at a Sri Lankan law firm the other day, he watered down my optimistic banter by talking about all the uncertainty that exists for international (private) investors (e.g. visa mess up, BOI to be scrapped, but no clear indication of how that affects investors etc). Too many cronies in places of power who don’t know what they are doing will risk this growth.

Oh yeah, SL is not the only small country to have it’s economy given a massive shot in the arm by China (which accounts for a lot of the infrastructure investment), but it does reflect well on the short-to-medium term policies of this govt. Who knows what the Chinese will demand in the long term?

All this is of course largely good for the SL economy, but careful you don’t trip up on your rush to congratulate the govt. It’s not quite as positive as you seem to think, and it’s certainly much more difficult to maintain.

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Ruki
2010-10-01 20:35:58

Seems like I touched a raw nerve by posting that link :)

SL stocks are the best performing in Asia two years running – and now the world.

Economy to grow by 8% this year.

And Fonny is going to jail.

It must seem bitter to you.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 21:18:23

Aiyo ruki aiya, what is this carasek fellow saying?
He sounds like a foreginer, must be from un or norway. this is not sinhala or even tamil name.
he sounds very clever though, no?
I am simple fellow, not understanding anything he is saying.
I can never argue with fellow like this, must be top fellow somewhere driving nice car to big office in tall building with nice resheption girl…
i was thinking you give him tight but you are just saying same thing over and over no…
is this enough to get paid by the government sirs?

 
Ruki
2010-10-06 04:19:41

Hey karisack, this should make you weep:

Sri Lanka Usurps Vietnam as Asia’s Bond ‘Darling,’ Nomura Says

Sovereign bond investors should buy debt of Sri Lanka over Vietnam as the island nation progresses in setting aside three decades of war to record economic growth that outpaces its rival, according to Nomura Holdings Inc.

“Sri Lanka has become the new darling of the Asian emerging-market space,” credit analysts led by Hong Kong-based Pradeep Mohinani wrote in an Oct. 5 note to clients. The nation is the “the sovereign story in Asia to dislodge Vietnam, which has lost its allure,” he said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-05/sri-lanka-surpasses-vietnam-as-asian-sovereign-bond-darling-nomura-says.html

 
 
 
 
shammi
2010-10-01 21:56:29

Ruki, SF aligned himself with Ranil, and brought up the white flag affair, out of greed for power. He must have been wooed upon seeing raw power at close quarters so often, like during defence discussions with the prez.
But he also laid his life on the line for the country. His family too, must have gone through a lot of fear and uncertainty when he was in active service and when he was seriously injured. Don’t we at least owe him a fair trial? Doesn’t he deserve that little courtesy from the country?

By the way, why do I get the feeling I know your ardent fan Deveniya?

Ruki
2010-10-01 22:12:48

I lost all respect for the man over the white flag affair and his claims to sole credit for the war victory. He betrayed Sri Lanka with his accusations and brought shame to the country. I have absolutely no pity for him. That he was stupid enough to fall for the UNP/JVP’s ploy is not anyone else’s fault. He was in the army before Mahinda became President and yet couldn’t win the war. And now he’s claiming all the credit for himself, even ignoring the navy and the airforce who played a very important role in the victory. It’s pretty obvious that he is a stubborn, pig headed, power-hungry man. I think he has gone through life far too long without anyone standing up to him.

When he’s sitting in his jail cell I hope he realises he could have been a war hero adored by millions but instead he decided to take to politics and ended up fucking himself over. He could have been travelling the world over giving speeches to defence academies, writing books and overseeing the reformation of the army from one ready for combat to one in peacetime…but now he is not even a general, and is going to be locked up in a dark cell, with few friends except for the JVP (the UNP abandoned him a long time back).

That should be the fate of traitors.

 
 
Deveniya
2010-10-01 22:24:20

Hi Shammi akki,

you are talking to me or to ruki aiya?
I am not understanding last part of your comment well, but you have nice name.
I am agreeing with your comment and also dont agree with comment, the first part of comment we have to now understand that the fonseka sir is deshadrohiya, which is meaning traitor. we dont need to understand why he is traitor, but we all know he is traitor and is betray country. this is the fact now. HE the president sir is saying so this is true, you understand. Whatever HE president say, it is true and fact. These days he is the main man.

you are also talking about the fonseka sir lying on the lifeline, but we dont need to consider these things nowadays. many army fellows dying and also step on jonny batta and also the rpg, their lifeline is flat. its ok. they are hero, but not the fonseka sir now, you understand, no? it is simple sri lanka logic, no problem. there is very fair trial, also, no problem. many big army sirs sitting on committee, and they give order, which is sign by HE President sir.

it is also true that i am making baare and doing pooja when fonseka sir is in bomb blast, and then i celebrate when he is finish the tiger fellow, but we are sri lanka fellows, no? we are change mind very fast. you almost must do like this or you are also like the fonseka sir and are traitor who betray the country. these days to get job and money we must lick the shoes of the upfa people, so i am also doing like this. what to do men? i am trying to get job also like ruki aiya, no.

Now my friend closing internet cafe so i go and come again tomorrow.

Everything ok!

suba anagathayak wewa, budu saranai, devi pihitai!

shammi
2010-10-01 22:50:04

His sources for citing the white flag affair were vague and unsubstantiated. Damaging to the image of the country and very irresponsible for a former commander.

The way of the Dodo
2010-10-02 07:06:04

Not just the white flag incident. That entire fiasco on BBC. The guys a megalomaniac and a nutjob, he clearly didn’t think twice about threatening the stability of the entire country to leverage his position.

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Mahinda
2010-10-02 16:16:04

Yes and Mahinda and Gotabhaya could never in a million years be accused of megalomania, and have always come off as being exceptionally cultured, intelligent, dignified and articulate during BBC interviews…

 
 
 
 
Ruki
2010-10-01 22:32:18

I thought this was a nice writeup:

Here are the issues:

A. They were all in it together.

B. General Fonseka failed to get an extension from the former President Chandrika and desperately went after her.

C. She did not give it and made negative comments and called him names because of his caddish female issue in the Army that was in his file and she knew it and said he was too ambitious and thought he will be sitting in her chair if given a chance. She was proven right.

D. He became very angry and said he will “Fix that bitch”

E. Luckily SC decided CBK cannot be in office any longer and hence,

F. Elections called and MR won.

G. After elections with barely 3 months to go the General gets his appointment and extension thanks to his best friend then GOTA.

H. He fixes CBK by withdrawing her security without tell the Defense Ministry, and even verbally abusing her and calling her names when she turned down his request when she was President. SF became vindictive.

I. CBK got her security back only by appealing to her friend and good decent Civil Servant Mr. Lalith Weeratunge, Presidential Secretary.

J. He hated people like General Parami Kulatunge and deprived him of the rightful house inside Army HQ and refused to give Parami a bullet proof vehicle and proper escort.

K. SF had a totally different set of rules for him and his family vs. all other officers who did not kowtow to him .

L. He was clearly the best commander SLA had. But he hated people from Royal or Trinity.

M. He did what he had to do and no other man would have succeeded like he did.

N. He did allow the son in law to make money with contracts but this was clearly known to the Clan and it was allowed. Otherwise how do you explain his frequent visits to Sri Lanka almost every month and claiming to be a consultant to the Def.Ministry? How do you explain the fancy vehicles?

O. CBK endorsed SF the last minute not out of principle but out of sheer malice and envy to defeat her nemesis Mahinda who outwitted her and WON THE WAR she bungled. FOR SF too this was a last minute attempt to get votes but CBK overestimated her pathetic status in Gampaha.

The Rajapakse clan even provided state security to his family in the USA and sent money every month when the commander was in hospital. A family that had quite a bit of flashy wealth and fancy cars all of a sudden. His rules got him to air condition Army House for his daughter’s wedding. A lot of SLA funds were spent for that wedding.

He as Vanni or Jaffna commander abused phone privileges and ran up over a 2million rupee bill he tried to get the army welfare office to pay for PRIVATE calls to the US. Why would he think he was more special and above the law and not have to pay his phone bill like the rest of us?

The problem here was not that people did not know how he operated or his vindictive nature; but he was clearly the smartest most strategic commander in SLA history. Without him the 8-man team strategy would not have been introduced. His concept wreaked havoc on enemy lines and Tigers did not know what hit them.

The falling out was over ambition. He negotiated with the JVP while in uniform. He got mad when his son-in-law’s company was not allowed to ship that massive shipment from China when the war was almost over. He and his entire family was having a luxury holiday shopping for weapons in China during the last week of the war.

His problem was him accusing and pointing fingers when he himself was not that clean and allowed his cronies to prosper. He cleaned the army in one way but after the terrorist attack on him he probably thought I am sticking my neck out why not safeguard my family by allowing a few deals? Clearly they were not massive deals but still corrupt deals he facilitated for the fake front company run by his son-in-law who claimed to be a consultant.

He was in uniform when he negotiated with the JVP. He hounded the current commander and arrested the current commander’s ADC to try to destroy the commander’s character and prevent his promotion when he heard he was not going to be allowed to remain Army commander and CDC at the same time. That is when he wanted revenge. He was given more land by the President than for other Force commanders. This was no saint. But he was the best commander ever. He thought he was more popular than Rajapakse. This is where his huge pride and ego kicked in. He thought he could “teach a lesson” to the Rajapakses.

Fonseka thought that he deserved the Presidency and he alone was the architect of the war. He failed to realize how the political aspect of the war and global dimensions were handled by Gota, Basil and Mahinda to resist pressure and get the weapons he needed to win.

Had he won, he would have wiped everyone and established martial law. He is a military man who knows nothing about fair play and democratic governance. He openly threatened Gota and Mahinda. He threatened army people who spoke out against him. He threatened Wimal Weerawansa from tha stage and said he will be “soup katu for dogs.”

There is no doubt it is the insecurity of the Clan that is causing these court cases. IF he kept quiet he would not be in this position. Now should he keep quiet? No but in that case as the old saying went “people in glasshouses should not throw stones”. His weakness was probably allowing his son-in-law to profit from the war and forcing the army to give contracts to this young lad.

None of this would have been serious enough charges if they did not fall out. No one here is virtuous. It is a case of thieves falling out so to speak with one man with a huge ego who thought he was better than everyone else and wanted to teach a lesson to the clan but it did not materialize that way despite the US backing him because of the Robert O Blake connection and policy of the Obama regime to topple Mahinda by using SF and giving him immunity in the US to testify.

In my view, the best is for the sentence to be commuted and or he be pardoned. Egos on both sides say “mama second wenna kamathi naha”. Sadly so it will go on. He is proud and MR wants him to bend and that will not happen. This jail sentence is absurd and vindictive as well. Let him be and ignore him. He no longer has that much support in Sri Lanka except with some rank and file and some officers. and the General should not forget how desperately he was going after any politician to get his extension and even damned Ranil so much when he was Jaffna commander and still went with Ranil for election purposes.

shammi
2010-10-01 23:13:41

About the perks and the commissions, we would have given him anything he asked for when we were winning the war. I suppose you’re right about people in glass houses. Also agree, these are massive egos clashing. But somehow I can’t shake off the feeling we’re not doing right by him. Glad to know you prefer a pardon or commuted sentence.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-02 16:10:39

Well if it isn’t our old friend rookie. You should be a farmer, what with you penchant for spreading manure…

Few issues with this article, although I have to say, the (M) just about sums it up…

L. SF does not hate people from Royal. Not sure about Trinity…

N. SF would never allow anyone, including his son in law Danuna Tillakaratne, to make money due to their connections. If Danuna Tillakaratne was ever involved in a deal and SF found out, Danuna Tillakaratne
would have been properly in the shit. Furthermore, Danuna Tillakaratne was never a “consultant to the ministry of defense” and also did not make monthly trips to sri lanka.

The deals in question were clearly outlined during this court martial. Batteries, Bino, Generators and some other shit. Total value? Rs. 30 million, which would usually mean a commission of Rs. 3 million. What the fuck kind of fancy vehicle can you buy for 3 million rupees?

Its true that SF rode around in a fancy vehicle – that B7 BMW was pretty sweet. But it was an official vehicle. Oh and the S Class? Again a sweet vehicle, but again, this was given to him by the army. SF does not own any other vehicle.

Also our friend upul Illangamge who came and spouted shit during the Presidential Elections? Do you know why he is pissed off at SF? Its because Illangamge wanted to make some money through military procurements through his company Woxzone (pvt) ltd (sri lankan registered company), and SF would not allow it. If SF was after money, he could have just got this fool to do military deals and pass on a commission.

With respect to the unfounded allegation

“His weakness was probably allowing his son-in-law to profit from the war and forcing the army to give contracts to this young lad.”

The second court martial ACCEPTED that SF had not given preference to any bid, and only based their case on the fact that SF “should have known his son in law was involved and failed to distance himself from the transaction,” despite the fact that Danuna Tillakaratne has nothing to do with Hicorp Pvt Ltd – He is not a Director, Shareholder or Employees of the said company and never has been. The “evidence” was circumstantial at best.

SF is not corrupt in the slightest, whatever his other faults may be.

How many people will stand up and say the same on behalf of his “opponent”?

Also, just reading the comments on popular news websites and talking to people all over the country, I get the feeling the author is slightly mistaken when he says “He no longer has that much support in Sri Lanka except with some rank and file and some officers.”

Ruki
2010-10-02 16:53:45

Erm, I don’t give a flying fuck what you think. Go and die in a gutter, thanks.

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Mahinda
2010-10-02 17:34:11

newsflash, dickwad – this isn’t me trying to convince you – its a response to the shit you’ve posted.

 
Ruki
2010-10-02 18:43:33

Just die will you? Go and join your fairytale God in la la land.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-02 18:53:56

just die? that the best you can come up with?!

loser.

where have I said anything about believing in god?

idiot.

 
Ruki
2010-10-02 19:04:43

God will punish you soon you religious nutjob. He will cast you into the lake of fire and you will burn for eternity.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-02 19:30:26

listen man I know you’re pretty fucking stupid, but you’re outdoing yourself today. how the fuck am I a religious nutjob??!

 
Ruki
2010-10-02 19:48:55

Go look at what you were blabbering about on “The Brown Muslims” thread, you faeces eating dung beetle.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-02 22:02:45

faeces eating dung beetle… I like that one rookie. I’ll have to remember that one next time I’m climbing off yer mum

sorry, couldn’t resist.

listen, fool, I know you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, but have you ever considered the possibility that there may may other mahinda’s besides me, el presidente and that fella on the rock whose birthday is in June or something?

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-02 23:25:46

Oh no! there are two of you on the forum

 
Ruki
2010-10-03 16:47:21

“Sri Lanka’s war-hero Sarath Fonseka, who once commanded his troops against the LTTE, has been lodged in a solitary cell where he sleeps on a mat on the cement floor, attired in ill-fitting prison clothes.”

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/sri-lankan-war-hero-spending-nights-in-jail-56649?cp

LOL!! What a tumble the general has had!

Aney pau no more air conditioner?

Next time he should think twice before trying to betray the country and sleep with the USA.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-03 18:11:18

:(

I hope they give him an early pardon.

 
shammi
2010-10-03 22:49:09

The more it’s delayed the more difficult for the govt. to pardon him without losing face. The tide seems to be slowly turning too. And imagine the amusement these recent developments must be providing LTTE sympathisers with. It shouldn’t have come to this. The court martial decision shoud not have been ratified at all. MR could still extricate himself from the situation by saying he’s acceding to the wishes of the sangha.

 
Ruki
2010-10-04 06:41:20

If he is pardoned what is to stop him from running off and screaming about a “white flag” story? He was ready to betray the country as a presidential candidate, what is to stop him from doing it again?

 
shammi
2010-10-04 08:02:40

Then they should at least see that he is given proper medical attention, a more comfortable cell, custom made prison clothes, decent meals and generally better treatment. The kind of humiliation he is being dished out will only serve to turn the public against the government.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-04 10:19:07

Its funny how some dumb fucks think that statement made by SF constitutes a betrayal of the country…

How does revealing the truth about gota and shavendra constitute a betrayal of the country??! since when are these two “the country”? SF only said that gota issued the order. He categorically stated that no such order was carried out by troops on the ground.

By the way, would anyone here like to come forward in gotas defense and say that he is an honest, honourable man who respects the letter of the law and would never issue such an order, calling for the killing of combatants who wished to surrender?

There are some of those who claim that this is similar to the extrajudicial killings conducted by the police, where suspects lead the police to weapons caches and then somehow manage to grab a weapon or grenade and try to escape/kill police officers, which leaves the police no option but to shoot and kill them.

I read some comments recently made on the dailymirror news website, where people actually applauded such actions by the police. So according to them, the way forward is to allow people to take the law into their own hands, and also to condemn those who try to punish people who take the law into their own hands.

It must be these people who think SF betrayed the country. Lets hope god helps them if their sons or daughters are ever falsely accused of a serious crime.

Going back to this “betrayal theory”, lets consider a different situation, and why not consider this frustrated fool rookie. Now lets assume rookie boy one day decides that he’s tired of getting turned down by every woman he’s ever met and decides to go and commit rape, and also murders the unfortunate female to cover his tracks, but since its the only time he’s ever had sex, he decides to keep a souvenir. His mother finds said souvenir, realizes what he’s done and decides to go to the cops. Is that also a “betrayal”?

Regarding that fool rookies exultant comment about the illegal imprisonment of one of sri lankas greatest sons, he underestimates the General, just like dodo the did when he “predicted” that the General would run crying to the president and switch sides in return for a pardon.

General Sarath Fonseka is as determined as they come and as hard as nails – if people think that this guy’s spirit can be broken by these fools through these tactics, then they don’t know a damn thing about this great man.

By the way, if our good friend blacker the ‘military expert’ is around, I just wondered if he would be joining the protests against the imprisonment of SF, seeing as he was so upset by ‘selective justice’.

After all, the verdict against SF is, at best, selective justice, right?

(its not, its a sham based on fabricated “evidence”, but lets just assume that its not, for the sake of argument)

 
shammi
2010-10-04 12:48:09

What SF said regarding the white flag incident was pure hearsay wasn’t it? He only said it after he fell out with the Rajapakses. If he was sincere he would have come out with it immediately after hearing it and only after verifying the story.
Honest, honourable men could not have won this war the way we did. Neither MR, Gota nor SF can be pure as driven snow. Who are we kidding? It was a dirty war. The other side was worse. People on both sides had much more to lose if the war went on. Honestly, I’m glad someone else made those difficult decisions for us, and ended it. I think they did the best they could in the circumstances. I don’t care if they made a pretty penny in the process either.
What about justice for the people affected by the war? They should get a chance to tell their story. The government must take responsibility to provide redress for those affected on both sides and decent assistance for them to resume normal lives, even if they have to tax us lucky ones more.
But pulling skeletons out of closets is counterproductive to reconciliation and progress. Certain parties would be immediately upon us like vultures, whereas we haven’t heard a hum subsequently about those thousands of leaked pentagon papers other than the CIA threatening to go for the wikileaks guy’s blood.
The courtmartial was clearly unfair, but the government seems to have had no other option as the
General was behaving like a ticking time bomb. What we should ask for is more humane treatment for a war hero, and hope that will be followed by a negotiated settlement by the two parties.
By the way, I think Ruki is a girl. She must be having a good laugh over some of these comments. I love her, I really do.

 
shammi
2010-10-04 12:53:54

Er, actually the government need not tax us more, they should eliminate waste and corruption and reduce the perks they give themselves.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-04 15:24:44

The best SF incident has to be that interviews with the Indian reporters at around midnight election day. Here’s clip of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE1ILTct528

it’s absolutely amazing how delusional he is. SF goes on a wonderful flight of fancy about how he knows the unofficial results according to which he’s won handsomely.

 
Ruki
2010-10-04 16:20:32

Shammi, I think you ass-raped Mahinda with your reply. Well done :)

And wow that video on youtube – It doesn’t matter that SF comes across like a megalomaniac on crack, that won’t that stand in the war of delusional, Sarath Fonseka syncophants like Mahinda.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-04 20:59:32

Ah shammi the armchair protester honours us with her views.

I have not actually defended the Generals choice to reveal the fact that Gota issued such an order. Nor for a second do I doubt that such an order was actually issued.

Well shammi, you clearly believe that the sec of def is a completely honourable man who would never issue such an order. good for you.

My question concerns the logic of equating the fact that SF made a comment regarding information he had about a certain illegal order made by one man with the betrayal of the country. Do you believe that SF betrayed the country through that statement, shammi? Please feel free to explain the logic through which you arrived at this conclusion. and don’t worry about disappointing me shammi, because I don’t really expect much from you.

Regarding your comments

“… I don’t care if they made a pretty penny in the process either.”

good for you. cos many of them did, and not just pennies. just don’t add SF to that lot, because he did not. he even paid for his own meals despite being able to obtain food from the mess.

“What about justice for the people affected by the war? They should get a chance to tell their story.”

why shammi, aren’t you perfectly happy with the LLRC set up on the instructions of your beloved president towards this objective? it must be very impartial, being set up by the president, and all. just like the elections.

“The courtmartial was clearly unfair, but the government seems to have had no other option as the
General was behaving like a ticking time bomb.”

oh the poor government. they just had no choice, huh? awww… that explains it.

thank you also for sharing the fact that you love this rookie. come to think of it, the two of you do share some similarities…

 
shammi
2010-10-04 22:02:14

I believe that the General was very wrong to issue that statement when he did not have any clear proof to offer. I also question his motives for doing so and coupled with the timing of the statement I think it was a betrayal, yes. I don’t know whether Gota is a perfectly honourable man, but believe he did the best he could in the circumstances.

Many of our politicians and armed forces personnel are said to have made big bucks out of the war, but at least these guys delivered. If the General was honest, I salute him, just as I respect his selfless dedication to duty.

The LLRC hasn’t finished the job yet, so we’ll have to wait and see. It’s up to the representatives of the affected people to make maximum use of it.

The General’s behaviour even makes me nervous. Imagine how jittery he must make the Rajapaksa bros. feel. They must share quite a lot of secrets.

I’m not worried about impressing you or otherwise, but just stating how I feel for the record.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-04 22:34:14

“I also question his motives for doing so and coupled with the timing of the statement I think it was a betrayal, yes.”

you’ve not really explained how the General stating that one man issued an illegal order constitutes the betrayal of the country, now have you?

some people are like parrots. they hear, they repeat. they don’t really seem to think about what they are saying. “international conspiracy” “betrayed the country” some people just love to throw phrases like these around.

gota did the best he could in the circumstances, eh? like he’s doing now with regards to kp? oh I’m sure he’s doing his best there…

I’m also sure the “representatives of the affected people” will “make maximum use of” the LLRC and we’ll all live together happily ever after.

“The General’s behaviour even makes me nervous. Imagine how jittery he must make the Rajapaksa bros. feel…”

oh you poor thing… did the bad general upset you with his behavior then? well i hope you find the rajapakse’s behavior much more to your liking. i mean they’ve only amended the constitution to consolidate their power, gotten rid of any need for accountability, put the commander of the army who destroyed the ltte in jail on fabricated charges, etc etc etc, but they’re not so bad, no?

 
shammi
2010-10-05 08:24:47

Do you believe that the General was right to accuse the Secy. of Defence of a war crime without a shred of evidence to back him up? Or is there any evidence that I haven’t heard of?

Do you or do you not think that several western countries were unfairly targetting Sri Lanka alone about war crimes when they themselves were flouting all the rules of decency?

Don’t you think that true reconciliation could only come from within the various communities of this country and that foreign intervention would only serve to create suspicion towards the whole exercise based on past experiences?

Yes, the General did not inspire a lot of confidence in me as a politician. I expect a head of state to act in a calmer manner than the General often appears. I thought he made the Rajapaksas jittery as in thieves falling out. I am not at all happy that he has been imprisoned on these flimsy charges, but feel that his own foolish actions got him there.

I am not a fan of MR’s politics, but feel he is trying to do something to develop the country which is more than I can say of the others out there.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-05 08:34:14

Appealing to reality is probably a logical fallacy in mahinda’s book. :p

 
shammi
2010-10-05 08:50:42

Anything that suggests SF is only human is a logical fallacy for him.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-05 09:29:17

the General would never have made such a statement unless it was true, although if it was up to me I probably would not have gone there.

in any event, my issue is how the General stating that one man issued an illegal order constitutes the betrayal of the country, like many idiots in our country keep saying.

this statement of yours

“Don’t you think that true reconciliation could only come from within the various communities of this country…”

and another statement of yours

“What about justice for the people affected by the war? They should get a chance to tell their story. The government must take responsibility to provide redress for those affected on both sides and decent assistance for them to resume normal lives…”

seem to be contradicted by the following statement of yours

“But pulling skeletons out of closets is counterproductive to reconciliation and progress”

If someone who was near and dear to you went missing during the war, and you really wanted to know what happened to them, and then some idiot called shammi waltzed up to you and said “hey you. pulling skeletons out of closets is counterproductive to reconciliation and progress” what would you say to them? Would you be like “oh… ok… I’ll just forget about them and move on, then” or would your reaction be slightly different to this?

besides, you also claim to love, really love, another fool who makes idiotic, racist comments on this blog. you’ve even defended him/her/it in the past when i’ve pointed out that their racist rants don’t really help us or our country. yet you claim to be concerned about reconciliation…

Personally, I think the truth is best, and covering up is not the best course of action.

here’s what a genuine leader chose to do in a similar situation.

“Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights, sharply criticizing those in his own party who attempted to remove statements supporting this fact from the reports of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission”

also, your statement

“Yes, the General did not inspire a lot of confidence in me as a politician. I expect a head of state to act in a calmer manner than the General often appears. I thought he made the Rajapaksas jittery as in thieves falling out. I am not at all happy that he has been imprisoned on these flimsy charges, but feel that his own foolish actions got him there.”

just about sums you up. what you want is someone who smiles a lot, talks nicely and sweetly, manipulates stupid people into supporting him, so you can pretend all is well, despite the fact that once he gets what he wants, he fucks you and your country in the ass. you seem to have what you want, at the moment.

 
shammi
2010-10-05 11:01:12

Your faith in the General’s integrity is not a good enough reason to justify what he said. I repeat, the motive is suspect and the timing was wrong. You haven’t answered my second question. There were people waiting to pounce on just such an admission, and SF was well aware of that.

If people were affected by the war they should be listened to and be compensated in a way which helps them to resume their normal lives. If they lost a breadwinner or lost homes the government should assist them to overcome their difficulties. Every effort should be taken to ensure that people are not being held in custody without charges, and former LTTE cadres should be rehabilitated and released as soon as possible.
Dissapearances must be thoroughly investigated, especially those who were taken from their homes for questioning or on suspicion.

When I said skeletons, I meant actions that may have been taken on the war front, towards the end.
It was a tense time and the forces were under a lot of pressure. There would have been tough decisions to make, and some of those decisions could be why you and I are living today and able to write pointless comments on blogs rather than having been blown to smithereens by some random suicide bomber.

Much as I dislike the term collateral damage, I’m sure that at some point especially towards the end of the war there would have been shelling etc. that caused damage to civilians. I don’t believe that civilians were targeted. Rather than pondering those at length we should be rebuilding the areas and making sure that those people who are left have homes to go back to.

You’re mistaken, the last thing I would call sweet is MR’s smile. Especially with those ridiculous black moustaches flowing out of his nostrils. But he does seem to think a bit before he opens his mouth.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-05 11:49:06

as far as i am aware, SF said that he had credible information that an order of that nature was issued by gota, but he clearly went on to say that it was not carried out by troops on the ground. as such, the people who were “waiting to pounce on just such an admission” didn’t really have much to work with.

what he said did not equate to “yes yes we killed the bastards as they tried to surrender” which would obviously have had quite different implications.

despite the fact that this frederica woman was going on about how SF uttered and stood by this statement in courts yesterday, I am not sure this was not an off the record comment by SF, which frederica chose to use for its shock value.

her “evidence” seems to be restricted to her notebook (which couldn’t possibly have been doctored of course) and her own statements. all highly credible, obviously. no appearance of the fabled recording of the interview.

you also seem to forget the little detail that it was the mr camp that turned this comment into an issue. in response to fredericas tabloid style revelation, SF said he was quoted out of context, the sec of the ministry of human rights sent a letter to phil alston saying that there was no drama here and that he could go back to his gin and tonic, and all would have been well…

except

the mr camp retracted the letter sent by the sec of the ministry of human rights and turned this into a drama.

why?

simple. because they could twist this into a pr exercise against SF and give people like you a new catchphrase.

and that, children, is how the phrase “betrayed the country” gained popular usage by the easily manipulated population of sl.

now tell me shammi.

is this the sort of people you want leading you? the sort who don’t give a damn about anything except the items that tie in with their own agendas?

or would you prefer someone who is honest and disciplined and loves his country so much he would die for it? a man with a backbone. not some groveler who will switch sides for personal benefits. or who will amend the constitution to ensure that his position was untouchable and that his kids could ascend to the throne, and damn the consequences and dangers to the country posed by such a constitution.

try and remember that if SF just wanted money, luxury and recognition, he could have just continued as cds or retired and lived the life of a king, and even gone and built a nice bungalow in a strict nature reserve using army equipment and personnel for the job, and no one would have said a damn thing.

 
shammi
2010-10-05 21:55:05

SF had money, luxury and recognition. What he wanted was power.

Those were top tigers who were supposed to have come waving flags. Monsters who made life miserable for people of all communities. If Gota ordered them killed, would I shed tears for them? I don’t think so. Would SF? I doubt it very much. It was all politics. Does he deserve to go to jail? No.

Don’t worry Mahinda. No one wants to see him in jail. Not even Ruki I’m sure. I feel something will be worked out soon. If you want me to sign a petition, I’ll oblige.

Whether we like it or not, MR is the president and will remain so for the next six years.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-05 22:52:22

I just saw some PA press statement. It seems they’re hinting that if SF asks for forgiveness MR is willing to extend it.

That will be interesting, but highly unlikely

 
Mahinda
2010-10-05 22:54:26

Shammi, you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about. When SF was the Commander he had power. I don’t think anyone who knew what they were talking about would argue that SF was one of the most powerful men in Sri lanka as the Commander Of The Army. He wielded power and had credibility and a presence that the likes of poor jagath jayasuriya will never have.

Whatever our resident self-styled fiction-writing military expert says, ascending to power through military means would have been a relatively simple thing for SF to achieve, had SF been so inclined.

Something you may not know about him is that he was also fiercely loyal to MR and Gota.

Call it woman’s intuition or whatever you like, but SF’s wife and elder daughter both knew that they would simply chuck him aside once he got the job done, long before the war was even won. They warned him, but he continued to trust the Rajapakse’s.

Even after he realized that they were not to be trusted and knew of the impending “promotion” to cds and the subsequent sidelining of him by the rajapakse’s in order to grab all the glory for themselves, SF chose to do things the proper way. He always did things the proper way – which is why its disgusting for people who know the man to hear people say that he may have been corrupt or may have tried to make money through procurements – he retired from the army, then ran for president.

I would never say SF is perfect. What he is, however, is an extremely honest man, who loves his country, and is more than capable of getting a job done. and sri lanka, being the corrupt bloody mess it is, needs such a man to sort it out.

Who knows. Maybe all of this will teach him a thing or two and he will come out better able to deal with and survive sri lankan politics.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-05 22:57:21

Dodo that offer is old news.

I do hope that no one holds their breath waiting for SF to ask for forgiveness for “crimes” he did not commit.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-06 07:37:40

Ah, more just so stories by mahinda.

 
shammi
2010-10-06 09:08:04

Just a thought. He couldn’t be the missing son-in-law, could he? There’s sure to be a fat reward on his head. Two birds with one stone, what?

 
Mahinda
2010-10-06 09:30:20

Its a million bucks. Rupees, not Dollars, before your eyes display $ signs and your ears go “kerching”
Fancy putting your bounty hunter cap on, shammi?

 
Mahinda
2010-10-06 09:32:02

ps – what are these two birds you speak of??!

 
shammi
2010-10-06 09:58:49

Just one Million? You call that bounty? I don’t think I’ll bother after all. Actually money doesn’t impress me much because I’ve never had much of it. And I couldn’t do that to your mother, she’s given me some of the best haircuts I’ve had.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-06 10:16:38

Whats wrong with a Million??!

Even prabhakaran only had a 5 mil pricetag!

I demand more respect! I”m a fifth as bad as he was, apparently!

Just kidding, and the 7th is good, but you can’t claim to not have much money and get your haircuts there ;)

BTW, I’m not Mr. Tillakaratne, FYI

 
shammi
2010-10-06 10:49:07

I scrimp and save for some things, but I haven’t been there recently. I could have sworn you were a member of the family. There’s another princess, isn’t there?

 
shammi
2010-10-06 11:26:02

You should read the latest post on Taboo Subjects on Kottu. “Is Frederica Jansz a Double Agent?”

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-06 12:18:51

I just read it. It was golden.

SF killing Lasantha hmm….

 
Mahinda
2010-10-06 16:22:33

Taboo is a fool.

If SF was indeed responsible for Lasantha Wickremetunge’s killing, don’t you think the government would have used this information against him by now??!

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-06 22:14:43

Maybe the government is complicit as well. Or maybe there is no evidence linking the two. Lots of Maybe’s but a juicy topic nonetheless

 
shammi
2010-10-06 22:56:16

That’s what I thought. SF was directing it at Gota’s bidding probably.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-07 00:12:38

Or, in a sudden fit of anger over the satellite phone allegation SF decided to get on a bike and do it himself.

 
shammi
2010-10-07 08:19:15

Go on like this and you’ll never get SF out of jail, but you could get Anoma Fonseka in to parliament.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-07 15:38:28

So Miss jansz has testified against SF. If she actually has a recording of his comments SF is proper fucked.

I wonder how his lawyers will try and defend him from there on. I suppose they can take the offensive and argue the Gota actually did say these things. But without material evidence of such an order his case is not going to stick.

Poor SF. the Taboo dude is spot on jansz et al hate SF only marginally less than mahinda

 
shammi
2010-10-07 22:49:52

I think she said that the comments were made off the record. So no tape. But she could have taped the subsequent telephone call to confirm the story before making it the headline. I’m not even sure what the charges are in this case. I think it was something about trying to create public unrest, which never actually happened. Frederica has good reason to hate the General. He made some disparaging remarks about her when he was in hot water after the story broke.

I was really only trying to give our Mahinda a heart attack. Now that I’ve succeeded, my inconvenient conscience is pricking me again. I feel the war would have taken a very different and much longer path had it not been for SF. MR must be feeling the pressure a little bit too now. He’s changed his stance saying he could consider an apology by a family member which is really silly. He’s not going to come out of this looking very nice unless he manages to dig up some real dirt on SF. But I’m sure any such evidence would incriminate the Rajapaksa brothers too.

 
Ruki
2010-10-08 06:37:16

Adawane muruga!!!! Fonny loses his parliamentary seat!

 
shammi
2010-10-08 08:16:56

His only use in parliament is to give the sissy opposition some badly needed backbone.
The man is 59 yrs. old. He carries shrapnel in his body. Needs regular medication. Freezing baths at 5 a.m., prison food, poor sanitation and lack of fresh air will slowly weaken and kill him. Just like me, most people don’t want to see that happen, whatever his faults.
If his supporters manage to keep the pressure up we’ll soon see MR relenting.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-08 09:19:47

Well i get the feeling he’s going to spend more than 3 years in prison unless someone offers an apology on his behalf. His time is running short. People will soon forget about him.

 
Ruki
2010-10-08 09:43:33

True about people forgetting him I think. Sri Lankans are known for their short memories. Give a few months and people won’t give a toss about the disgraced army commander and his shenanigans.

 
shammi
2010-10-08 10:01:08

Not this time I think. Want to take a bet?
Even if they don’t manage to get him out, it’s going to affect MR’s popularity and the next election.

 
Ruki
2010-10-08 10:46:01

I don’t think everyone is going to drop everything and vote UNP now just because Fonny is in jail. The more the UNP and JVP make a fuss over Fonny, the more people are going to get disgusted with them them. I just wish Fonny would commit suicide or something so the nation can concentrate on more important things like building the economy.

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-08 10:50:03

I doubt it. The vast majority of sri lankan will forget. And they will have no reason to remember because in another 3-4 the masses of sri lankan will be twice as wealthy as they are today

 
shammi
2010-10-08 21:24:47

Everyone sounds so sure : (

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-10 09:07:47

it will be a self fulfilling prophesy

 
shammi
2010-10-10 23:40:35

I wouldn’t be so certain. Anyway, there were no takers for my offer.

 
Mahinda
2010-10-11 10:36:56

dodo, when you say “the masses of sri lankan will be twice as wealthy as they are today” in 3 to 4 years, what data or trends are you basing this statement on?

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-11 10:58:01

Yep. We’re heading for about 7.5% growth this year. IMF expect us to grow 7–8 until 2015 most of the growth is going to come from sectors like agriculture & tourism. So you can expect the median income to go from about 250K to 400K

 
Mahinda
2010-10-11 11:43:31

Well, here’s hoping that these predictions turn out to be accurate and that they actually translate into some real benefit to the masses.

 
shammi
2010-10-11 11:57:26

Unless they introduce proper regulation tourism is going to develop in a haphazard manner creating problems of sustainability in the future. They should concentrate on upgrading the quality of our product rather than persist in this preoccupation with increasing the number of arrivals. Some upmarket properties seem to be coming in, but related services don’t seem capable of catering to this type of demand.

I was also shocked to read about the drilling that had taken place atop Sigiriya recently, and this with the knowledge of a commissioner of archaeology who’s supposed to love Sigiriya. Even the restoration on the deteriorating frescoes appeared ill planned until MR intervened. The Central Cultuaral Fund should set aside a fraction of it’s revenue to upgrade the facilities to visitors such as information, signage and maintenance.

The Tourist Board and Tourism Promotion bureau need to put the funds avilable to them to better use, instead of splashing it on pointless tamashas in foreign capitals. The corrupt officials in these bureaux are only interested in making all expenses paid trips abroad and serving a handful of top players in the industry for personal gain.

If these things are not looked in to we’ll only see an increase in the mean income and not the median.

 
 
 
 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-04 10:53:34

Mahinda, when did i say the general would run crying to MR for a pardon? I remember saying something quite different.

Mahinda
2010-10-04 11:28:28

Dodo, you suggested SF would cross on numerous occasions, adding that they would perhaps “cut a deal”

for your reference

“You know mahinda, I’m just waiting for the day when SF crosses over. I want to see your reactions then. I get a good feeling it’s on th cards”

The “run to Mahinda crying for a pardon” may have been me over dramatizing the point…

I hereby tender my sincere apologies if you feel wronged by me over this matter.

The way of the Dodo
2010-10-04 11:41:30

That’s fine, apology accepted. :)

I’ve always maintained that despite everything, SF is not a spineless twit.

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Mahinda
2010-10-04 11:49:13

That cool.

I’ll also forward this comment of yours on to the committee considering applications for “the understatement of the year.”

I have to say I honestly believe its a real contender…

 
 
 
 
2010-10-05 15:23:41

Desperate, I will crawl
Waiting for so long
No love, there is no love
Die for anyone
What have I become

2010-10-05 15:24:28

Breaking Fonseka

Deveniya
2010-10-05 15:34:34

Lefroy Aiya, what is problem?
You are desperate want to break fonseka sir?
I also can help, if you are wanting. I know one aiya who has friend inside the Welikada Bandanagaaraya. If you are giving giving correct price, and small help for me, I can help no problem.
Pricfe is depend on what of the fonseka sir you are wanting to break.

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The way of the Dodo
2010-10-06 22:18:48

Something interesting I came across

http://asiasociety.org/video/policy-politics/sustainable-peace-sri-lanka-complete

It’s a nice video, GL handles some interesting topics very intelligently

Ruki
2010-10-07 17:10:26

Sri Lanka official forex reserves exceed US$7bn: central bank

Oct 07, 2010 (LBO) – Sri Lanka’s gross official reserves surpassed the seven billion US dollars level on October 04, the central bank said in a statement.

The level of reserves is equivalent to over 6.8 months of imports and is the highest ever reserves level of Sri Lanka, it said.

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=2020688614

 
 
2010-10-07 14:04:43

@Deveniya
How much would it cost to crush his right testicle. I have a tight budget man. Don’t think I’d be able to pay for crushing the left one as well.

Ruki
2010-10-08 06:38:35

Fonny’s testicle are probably worth less that 5 cents now.

 
Deveniya
2010-10-12 08:54:11

lefroy aiya, there are many people try to arrange these thing these days, very high offer price for natural looking thing. nothing for low budget. I am very sorry.

this bladdy ruki aiya stil not help no. he is very shellfish. not giving information on going to shop for good money. these people offer very good money for going to shop, and this fellow so greedy no… not even giving small support to game kollas… ruki aiya thaniyeng going shopping and thaniyeng budu wenawa.

this ruki aiya also thinking only 5 cent. if he know how much offering he is rape the mother, going welikada to get this money also. greedy shellfish fellow.

 
 
2010-10-08 09:39:48

@Dodo
Actually Dodo, it didn’t make sense to me either. But now I see that you are kind of, you know, flexible. I mean physically, of course.

 
2010-10-08 09:43:21

President Mahinda> So let mercy come.
And wash away.
What I’ve done.

 
2010-10-08 13:52:46

Sri Lankans will definitely forget SF. But UNP needs something to talk about and now they (actually we. Now I’m more a UNPer than I’ve ever been) have Fonseka. Damn, this man is useful.

 
Ruki
2010-10-11 07:05:36

It’s so fucking funny how the JVP is trying to be the “saviour” now :)

shammi
2010-10-12 07:51:22

I thought there was quite a showing at the rally near the Welikada prison yesterday. Wonder why they call it the Magazine prison or something?

 
 
The way of the Dodo
2010-10-11 21:24:53

I’ve noticed that anarkali and namal appear together in photos alot these days. maybe they’re an item

The way of the Dodo
2010-10-11 21:29:46

Oh dear, what if the kids end up having namal’s looks and anarkali’s brains.

The way of the Dodo
2010-10-11 21:30:44

Not that namal’s brains amount to anything substantial.

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Ruki
2010-10-12 20:22:27

Omg Tamils are getting slapped in Canada again… check out the comments section

Thailand arrests Sri Lankan migrants
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/12/thailand-migrant-arrest.html

 
The way of the Dodo
2010-11-01 18:37:28

One of the HiCorp dudes pleaded guilty today. I wonder why he pleaded guilty if Hi Corp hadn’t done any wrong.

Mahinda
2010-11-01 20:17:52

This is the same guy, Wellington Trent “Randy” De Hoedt, who claims Danuna Tillakaratne is connected to Hicorp (pvt) Ltd.

Its just his word. No documents, funnily enough… All documents regarding Hicorp (pvt) Ltd indicate that Danuna Tillakaratne has absolutely nothing to do with this company. Even the registrar of companies confirmed this.

The General’s “conviction” for “having links” with Hicorp (pvt) Ltd is based largely on the “evidence” given by Wellington Trent “Randy” De Hoedt, as well as some other circumstantial bs.

This fellow De Hoedt has probably struck a deal with the Chairman and Board of Directors of Sri Lanka (pvt) Ltd. to plead guilty, do a little time and then quietly be pardoned and receive a little “something” for his troubles. Its their SOP, isn’t it? What else is this De Hoedt fellow supposed to do when faced with such a choice? Its a case of “Do what we want and you’ll be ok. Don’t do what we want and we’ll fuck you up.” So he’s probably going the same way as Duminda Silva, Johnston and a whole host of others. This is Mahinda’s choice. A new, Sri Lankan version of Hobson’s choice. If you’re on our side, you’re a hero, even if you kinda killed 600 cops and bombed our sacred relics. If you’re against us, then you’re a traitor, even if you sort of masterminded the victory against the LTTE.

The way of the Dodo
2010-11-01 21:01:25

Three words: hook, line & sinker

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Mahinda
2010-11-01 21:06:46

;)

 
 
 
 
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