not to mention all those prepubescent little boys servants who are supposed to run around offering service

I don’t know. Rashdies’ seems to be the only worthwhile fatwa.

Oh please, you can drop the denial routine. And standard translation of the quran has the stuff indi talks about and there much more horrifying stuff there. Parts where the prophet apparently frolics in the shower with his 9 year old wife. And the Medina verses makes the Claremont sermon sound like a call to pacifism.

It’s interesting that this opinion has nothing to do with indi really. The actual article is a very poor representation of Koranic reality of things. Mohamed, in reality Indi is just offering an opinion on a topic by an ‘Islamic Scholar’. Do comment on THAT article first if you need to voice an opinion I reckon. hardly venom in my books :)

Mohamed, you seem to be carrying out a ‘jihad’ against the wrong person here. Indi has just reproduced what has been said by a ‘Muslim scholar’ from the Maldives. Maybe you should be expressing your outrage in that forum, without jumping to wrong conclusions?

Actually, long before any of that, SL banned Scorsese’s ‘The Last Temptation of Christ’, which is a great movie, unlike that Da Vinci Code rubbish. Rushdie famously said that ‘The Da Vinci Code’ was “a novel so bad that it gives bad novels a bad name”. The movie was worse.

when did the government allign itself with the Taliban.

Pure bullshit. I suggest you read up on iran-afgan relation before shooting off your mouth and making an idiot of yourself. mahindaphobes all seem to be lacking a grounding in objective reality, tragic.

Iran always has hated the taliban because the taliban were Sunni, iran is shia and the Taliban indiscriminately murdered the shia population in Afganistan. They almost went to war in 1998, because the taliban executed all the Iranian diplomat in Afghanistan. Moreover, the present Afghan government and Iran are great buddies politically and economically, why on earth would they have ties with the taliban under those circumstances.

“I do sincerely think Islam is holy and that it has had a profoundly positive affect on many lives. There’s no reason to throw that out because some people interpret it in rather worldly ways.’

What interpretation are you talking about. have you ever read the Medina verses. It’s a bloody call to arms

Did you even read that news piece. Finding a bunch Iranian weapons in Taliban hands means nothing, you’ll need to show some evidence of actual involvement. There are a multitude of way those weapons could have got there. There are Somalian guerrillas and Colombian communists with American weapons that doesn’t automatically mean the US government provided them. Moreover, if Tehran wants to play the double bluff they will never provide their own weapons to the Taliban, they’d rather get those weapons from the from the black market. The fact that you had to dig for news like this shows how non sequitur it is.

And what is the evidence of that cooperation. A weapon cache, which the Americans claim came from Tehran. Read the damn article and try to understand it in context.

What the hell are you talking about man. If citing news headlines alone amount to substantiative matter you are mistaken and sorely lacking in aptitude. Let me quote the article:

“Like right here, it says 82 mm “h-e” lot 02 slash 87,” the solider said. “The Iranians pretty much copy all of our ordinance, pretty much verbatim. They’ll even put English writing on there. But these lot numbers you’ll never see a U.S. lot number like that.”

That is the only evidence the article cites. Lol, they can’t even confirm the weapons came from Iran. Do you have any knowledge of the history between the Taliban and Iran. Or any clue about the Sunni Shia division. Or do you have the common sense to understand that Iran can again a lot more from a Afganistan under the Karzai government, as opposed to a bunch goat herders who are philosophical against the very foundation of the Iranian government. Also Iran isn’t particularly happy at having to host 1 million + refugees because of the Taliban.

Going by yours and, apparently CBS, logic Canada is also in collusion with the Taliban. this is from an Asia times article Written by Gareth Porter, who is an actual defense analyst not some bimbo. Although I must admit Lara Logan is quite easy on the eyes. :) I’ll link it in the end. It says:

“In response to an inquiry from Inter Press Service (IPS), the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO), a unit of the US Department of Defense, said in an e-mail that Italian-manufactured TC-6 anti-tank mines are “very common” in the Taliban-dominated areas of the country and that they had been modified to increase their lethality in improvised explosive device attacks.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KI05Ak02.html

All this is nonsense. There has always been the random unidentified Taliban commander claiming Iran supplied them with weapons training etc.. But when people investigate there is nothing backing these claims. And also just because some random wayward Iranian milatary commander decided to make buck by selling weapons to the Taliban in no way implies the government in Tehran supports the taliban.

Eh, A bunch of people in civilians cloths used Iran as a transit. Is that you evidence? The terms cognitive bias, describes your responses the best. Please, I’m getting tired of your nonsense. I’m not sure if you even believe what you are saying. if you do, you have my sympathies. Just to leave you with a trinket from the report itself.

“We have found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became the 9/11 attack. At the time of their travel through Iran, the al Qaeda operatives themselves were probably not aware of the specific details of their future operation.”

Sorry, I don’t play that game.

Why didn’t you write down the next two lines? Get a life

Ah, classical symptoms of delusional disorder. If only indi were a clinical psychologist

Also, what the hell are you saying here. you are implying that I shouldn’t play the ‘denial game’ because I’m not as good a denier as you are, ha ha , hilarious. you just shot yourself in the foot.

cognitive bias is glaring, here are the next two lines.

“Khallad has said that Iran made a concerted effort to strengthen relations with al Qaeda after the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole, but was rebuffed because Bin Ladin did not want to alienate his supporters in Saudi Arabia.”

So this fellow Attash himself is saying that there is no agreement between Iran and Bin Laden. And even if there was some dialog between Iranian officials and Al Qaeda, how on earth does this prove a direct link between Tehran and Al Qaeda. This could be some local officials out to make money, it could also be some rebel faction inside revolutionary guard. This isn’t the first time elements of the revolutionary guard went postal.

Let’s back to the original point for a second here. Mahinda Rajapaksha colluding with the Taliban, where is the evidence of this. All you are saying is that Mahinda trades with Iran, Iran is supposedly helping the taliban. Therefore, Mahinda is helping the taliban, or what ever. This is dumbest crap I’ve heard in a while. By your argument Indian, china, Dubai, Germany, Spain are all Taliban supporters. The EU has over billion dollars of investment in Iran. Are they also Taliban supporters? I’m sorry there is only one way to describe this argument.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Tarkus/FacePalm.jpg

no Russian were downed by US weapons stinger missiles were particularly effective, US didn’t hide there intentions they never had to. And what can you verify from that report. the impression I got was that Iranians always copy US weapon and munitions, this is good idea because American have superior technology. Much like how many countries copy the AK series rifles right down to the wire. But the point you are missing is how do you know the Iranian government provided those weapons. Like I said half the world terrorists use American weapons of some sort that doesn’t mean the US government handed them over.

You still have to explain why Iran is helping the taliban when Kazai is basically butt buddies with the Iranians.

Here is the Afgani ambassador to the US Said Tayeb Jawad
“Ambassador JAWAD: They are building roads in Afghanistan. They are involved in providing educational opportunities for Afghan kids and a variety of reconstruction project. Their private sector is involved in the rebuilding process in Afghanistan.”

Why on earth would Iran sabotage their own economy.

Are you two still at it? Lefroy, you’re basing your entire argument on some journalistic fluff and a few Iranian weapons. The media is almost always wrong in these situations. Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, they were convinced Saddam had WMDs, and that he was gonna sell it to AQ. Just as with the Iran-AQ connection, officials were quoted as having evidence of contact between the Baath Party and AQ. Actually it was rubbish cooked up by Chalabi. There could be an Iran-AQ connection, but there really is no sign of it.

Claiming MR is supporting the Taliban is pretty absurd. You might as well say he supports the IRA because he deals with Libya who once sent weapons to the IRA. If anyone’s helped the Taliban/AQ from over here, it’s the LTTE — they swapped suicide bombing expertise for AA weapons in the ’90s. The ZSU-23-2s used at Elephant Pass in ’91 came from Afghanistan.

Dodo, on the other hand, you wouldn’t believe how convoluted an alliance can be, with many of the involved parties not knowing who they are allied with. In the late late ’90s, India armed and trained elements of the Northern Alliance against the Pakistani-backed Taliban even though there were links between the NA and Punjabi separatists. In the ’90s, Israel sent Mossad and Seyaret Matkal operatives to Iran to train, arm and dispatch Kurdish separatists across the Iraqi border against Saddam, who was seen as Israel’s biggest enemy in the region. The Muslim Kurdish separatists thought the Israeli instructors were Iranian intelligence troops, and the Iranians thought they were Turkish special forces.

Yes, they are prolly wondering about you, but Sri Lankans have conspiracy theories about everything. A comment on the Meteorological Dept’s warning against using mobile phones in a thunderstorm said that it was a GoSL plot to prevent SF communicating with his voters.

What exactly do allies do if they don’t support or help each other — smile sweetly at each other? Come off it, if you’re saying the GoSL is allied with the Taliban, at least stand by that and prove it.

But my point is you two are both arguing about something so vague and tenuous that its basically hypothetical.