None Of The Above
I would show them another finger entirely. Deccan Herald photo via Flickr
That guy Fernandopulle makes me spitting mad. He just had a party for 450 people at Water’s Edge (golf club). This is to celebrate being appointed Treasurer of the SLFP – chief robber baron of this land of thieves. Please note that I pay taxes. I pay at least 10,000 every month out of my paycheck, plus I pay tax on petrol, food and all and sundry. Just to say, I paid for that party. We paid for that party. This same Battaramullam Booruwa, last week in Parliament he admitted that Mahinda and 192 of his closest ass-washers spent half a million dollars for a tour to China. As a return on our investment, we established a Friendship City Guangzhoue. And everyone got a commerative charm bracelet. You fucking cunts. Please stop spending my money like you earned it. Build a tank or a temple, fine, that’s how king’s used to be judged. Keep bellies full and keep the faith. Today, politicians just buy a Benz and corrupt the faith. Now they don’t give a fuck about history, and they don’t give a fuck about me.
Anyways, if you weren’t keeping an eye on things – our soldiers are dying up North, 600,000 people still do not have homes, is still on death row in the evil Saudi kingdom, etc, erratum. This is a government that spent Rs 22 million on hoardings to fellate Mahinda for a year of robbery and only gave Rs 18 million to compensate Mavil-Aru farmers. This is a government dedicated to selling out our national security, freedom and very lives. I’m not saying that I don’t like pol sambol. I’m Sri Lankan and I got my feet, money and heart here if you want to call me a traitor. Denial isn’t patriotism, and things are seriously fucked up. Our leaders are corrupt to the core and this fish is rotting from the head. Once respectable men like Milinda Moragoda are polishing Mahinda’s balls. Our Opposition is led by two men without the courage to even acknowledge their own (homo) sexuality. The UNP is corrupt, the SLFP is depraved, the JVP are insane, and the JHU are an embarrassment.
And I still believe in democracy. It’s sucks but, you know, what else? I think Sri Lanka should add just one thing. Next time we vote, I want ‘None Of The Above’ as an option. Half of these fuckers don’t need to be replaced, they need to be fired. These people ignore us in their offices and stop us in the streets. Half of them should be fired, starting from the top. Politically impossible of course, like Ranil and Mangala admitting that they’re gay or Mahinda admitting that he stole tsunami money and gave money to the LTTE. But anyways, my vote is for ‘None Of The Above.
mr holier than everyone else ( always a bad sign of hidden skeletons) certainly can spout impressive number of four letter words it seems, when he doesn’t get invited. ( as if!)
in any case if you want to get invited 10000 is too low, you could have plucked a higher figure out of the sky you know. it is not as if we can check your payslip, after all even your bankers weren’t impressed initially by it. maybe you should go disguised as a joker or something. suits you better. i heard some of the them have a taste for dirty jokes . you may get paid more at least.
Reuters Newsflash: Sitting Nut doesn’t like Indi.
news?
in this blog? :-)
more like second hand platitudes + common suspicions + false analogies + ever changing delusions (last month’s hope mangala is this month’s hypocrite)+ denial+ …. all mixed together with ample helping of four letter words for effect ( essential since author is incapable of getting into details and gets whatever details he lifted from some billboard or other such as 600000, wrong )
its either none of the above or simply no one should go to vote at all..oh well these idiots will use those to un-used votes to vote for themselves even more..i think they better start making use of those million dollar mansions in California and get their asses of here..
Hey Indi
similar senitments are being expressed by many. I may have a solution, see my comments on this blog:
phlayer
Hi Indi,
I agree with you wholeheartedly on everything you said except the phrase “Once respectable men like Milinda Moragoda”. (When was he respectable to you, in that case every one you criticize here have had their respectable moments :) Dont get me wrong, I really like your blogs but please try be consistent)
This greed is the reason our country have to suffer this bad for this long. This is what the biggest problem of our country.
It does not matter if your tax is 10000 or 10 bucks, it is our hard earned money, what right they have to waste that on such useless things.
This lousy idiots think that they are the smartest in this country and need 10-20 million vehicles to move there sorry asses around. That old fucking Pissu Vitaranaya accepted it without any shame in the parliament.
Other problem is when people agree on one thing this politicizations does, people tend to ignore thousand other things this rascals mess up. Thats why democracy does not work in our country.
One part of our political system is corrupted with the greed from head to toe. Other part is corrupted with aged theory. So what can we do?
BTW be careful these politicization are so spineless, instead of acknowledging their own (homo) sexuality, they may even sue you for character deformation or some shit. And also Mr. Batalanda is not just a dick sucking ponnaya when it comes to torturing his opponents.
All true…the same moron who admitted that everyone sold their permits.. jeez.
I see Noam has already beaten me to the part about Milinda Moragoda being respectable. See he’s the worst of the kind…the kind of scum who pretends to be decent and civil and put up posters saying that he won’t put up posters etc. But he’s as bad as them and worse because he’s a slave to the US. This guy actually went to some Asia-Pacific Defense Forum and mentioned in his speech that US hegemony is good for the world and then in that famous speech at the WTC in Colombo I believe when he mentioned that ‘when the US Ambassador calls you just go without asking questions’. What a moron…
there is nothing we peasants can do about any of this…
other than express our discontent…
“Our Opposition is led by two men without the courage to even acknowledge their own (homo) sexuality”
Indi you need a quick brush up of recent history.
First of all ,it is only one who cannot admit he is gay.Please refer parliament hansards of late 90′s when Ranil got married .Mangala is the one who said that he doesn’t need a trophy wife to get elected and proud of his sexuality.
Also please also refer parliament hansards from the period of Susanthika controversy when Mangala pronounced his preferences for a strongly built black males.
Both of them were reported in all three language newspapers and everybody knew what it meant and people did not have a problem with voting for him in the next election.
During late 90′s people knew who was Mangala’s partner . I do not know who he is sleeping with now and I don’t give a shit it.
On the other hand momas boy tried keep it a secret and got into a phony marriage to be the next president .They were certain remours about who he is sleeping with but certainly people do not care about where his shclong ends up but notice the lack of a backbone .
People can smell a phony from a distance.
peace.
“UNP is corrupt, the SLFP is depraved, the JVP are insane, and the JHU are an embarrassment.”
True. Question is what can ordinary Sri Lankans do to stop these circus clowns?
Help start up and finance independent parties, and vote for them.
A change in the constitution (creating trasparency in election fundraising and limtes on spending)
needed before proper parties can successfully come forward.
There was a good party called Swarajya that came forward at the last parliamentary elections, this was an offshoot of the Citizens Movement for Good Governance (CIMOGG), they picked up about 1000 votes.
I doubt the constitution could be changed using the existing two main parties. I think the business community is powerful enough to withdraw support for the existing parties and throw their weight behind an independent.
a possibility perhaps, with some international support.
The funding for the two main parties comes from very dubious and possibly criminal sources. They have extremely deep pockets, the business community will find it hard going to stump up the kind of money that is needed. (about Rs.1,000m at least for a presidential campaign) I do not want to name names here, but If you doubt the extent to which the underworld finances politics, just look at the hangers on to the politicos, a minority of whom make it to the newspapers.
If the international comunity can impose soem transparency in the fund raising – list of donor to be published, names of donors contributing in excess of 100,000 to be sent to inland revenue with the relevant tax file details if available) and independent audit of donations. This should keep the black money out of politics.
Then some mechanism to prevent the abuse of state resources for election purposes, (the ruling party will resort to this top gain an advantage) and then a fair fight becomes possible
I agree that it will take a lot of time, effort, and hard cash, but without an alternative to the satus quo I d can’t see any change happening in SL politics.
I have to agree with sittingnut about the use of four letter words in this blog. Please ease off.
There’s four expletives in there, it’s a personal blog…don’t read it if it offends you nitwit…
The words do kinda limit the reach of this, but that is how I talk and think and how the media I consume (from movies to music) is phrased. Errr, so?
Haha Sittingnut, you rock. Indi, drop the holier-than-thou attitude, unless you want another bitchslapping. You wouldn’t be complaining if a friend of yours threw a party at Water’sEdge and you were invited would you? Of course not. Why would you be complaining the clubs didn’t let you in otherwise:) If you’re such a man of the people, stop checking out the nightlife around town. You lot can harp about the rich-poor gap as much as you want, but you’ll are really not doing anything to improve it, and you’ll are all in the ultra-rich category if you’ll can even afford to be using the Internet. Many of them started from very humble backgrounds. You also always seem sore about Benz cars. Most (non drug baron or political) people who drive Benz cars in Sri Lanka do so because they worked their asses off to afford it. I can name a few leading lawyers, doctors and bankers in this position.
The thing is, take an example, and if you want to see something done, then quit complaining and do it yourself. Don’t like Mahinda’s hoardings? Then take a spray can and a long-reach spray gun, and deface them. What have you got to lose except your life? At least you’ll go down in history as the man who tried.
I work all week. I pay taxes. If I go out I spend my own money, and pay taxes on that. I don’t care how private citizens spend their money, and I have no regrets about spending mine. I earn it.
These politicians are our servants. They are spending our money. They’re drinking the master’s liquor and making a mess of the master’s house. They need to shape up.
Wow, Fernadopoulle is a total dumbass. Reuters just SMS’d me that he called UN Aid Chief a ‘terrorist’ and LTTE supporter. Mmmmm. Diplomacy. Doesn’t make it sound like we have anything to claim at all.
to indi/padashow, that paragon tact, diplomacy seem to mean licking the boots of all foreigners including ones who violate diplomatic code ( not to mention basic standards of justice and human rights ) and slanders sri lankan forces with murder of aid workers without a shred of evidence . in fact all the evidence point to ltte
in the real word international diplomacy is more than being polite and smiling at cameras .it also includes threats, leaks to press, character assassination (justified or not ), and even assassination. in fact everything short of war. just see what politicians in usa say about iranian president with his slanders on on isreal.
whether what jeyraj said was planed or not, ppl like holmes should get the message that sri lankan democracy isn’t going to shut up and smile when ppl like him try to bully it and violate sri lankans basic standards of justice.
meanwhile ppl like indi cannot see beyond the headlines due to their bent submissive attitude.
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btw indi should go ask his servant jeyraj and obtain the part of indi’s 10000 he spent on the party. no doubt (!) indi probably has the exact figure worked out as to what is jeyraj’s own money what is governments’ money. or may be indi is opposed to government ministers holding parties at all?
may be indi is really clueless ( being almost a half foreigner he probably misses these things ) he may be surprised to hear that much of certain local media’s hostility to jeyraj is based on caste prejudices.
much of certain local media’s hostility to jeyraj is based on caste prejudices.
Do you have any evidence to prove this accusation against the local media? In a recent interview that Mr. Fernandopulle gave he didn’t mention any problems related to his cast. He did say that often his political oponents attacked him based on his race, largely without success since the people in his area largely stood by him dispite such tactics.
http://www.nation.lk/2007/07/22/inter1.htm
so you have developed a passion for my comments :-) perhaps you want to fill the position (of ind’s blog doggy) temporarily left by david blacker bc of indiscretion about identity of padashow. after all you have these questions for me, only me :-) hopefully you go beyond that and will ask indi to substantiate his statements with evidence (remember to highlight btw). why didn’t you so far? i am curious. why single me out? :-) it is his blog not mine after all. take your time to answer in the next comment pl. i am in no hurry. but remember to answer as i will do
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i take it that you agree with the rest of my above comment ? if not it would be better if you come out with all the objections at once. instead of going on to comment after comment as in previous thread :-)
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my basic answer to your request for evidence for caste discrimination is that it is you who should provide evidence for there being no caste discrimination.
to get in to details
in the first place i did not accuse ” the local media” but “certain local media” hostile to jeyaraj . and yes he gets the votes. did i say he didn’t? good for him imo. don’t you think so ?
you seem to have very limited knowledge about politics here or katana in particular . absence of any mention of caste in an interview is not evidence of there being no caste discrimination ( do you agree ? ) . all the questions and writer’s statements about his race in the interview can be substituted by his caste or his religion. and the answers will be the same. instead of race word used there, another caste word can be substituted bc it is also used against him. you accept the evidence for use of race word, so do you accept use of the caste word ? if not why? bc it is not in that particular interview? do answer. do you base your jugements on one interview or political situation in the country
do you you not agree that certain characteristics attributed to him are derived from disgustingly stereotyping character attributes imputed to his caste? may be you don’t know what i am talking about . if so i can’t explain further to clueless ppl . sorry. you ( or david blacker who may jump in here) may hold forth as much as you want about this , but i wont go there.
others in government makes similar statements to jeyraj .past week kehliya, prime minter and others made even more ‘colorful’ statements, but jeyraj is singled out for special treatment by certain media . why do you think that is? is that bc they find it hard to accept him having such a say in country ? why is that?
do you think kadiragamar would have had the same problems? if not it cannot all be race . of course the comparison here is not about their persons but how their race, caste, etc are precieved
may be you don’t believe that certain media groups supposedly close to unp, showed discrimination against premadasa esp before he became president, either?
and may be you don’t believe ( or know ) that jvp’s politburo throughout the years is composed almost completely of certain castes and that hostility to it in certain media groups is in part due to that?
there is caste discrimination. do you really want evidence for that ?those who have discriminated against have fought back through democracy . may be you need as evidence terrorists who ( imo falsely ) claim to fight back against discrimination to prove discrimination? is that the type of evidence you need ?
fact is these things go back. in first election for locals for one seat in early 1900′s ( electorate limited by education and wealth ) the ‘tamil’ ‘high’ caste candidate was esp. brought in from india ( by certain ‘sinhala’ ancestors of a present political leader) to defeat the ‘ sinhala’ candidate from another caste through united votes of similar ‘tamil’ and ‘sinhala’ voters . do you deny or even know that ? read history of that period.
why is there several buddhist nikayas in sl ? do you think caste has nothing to do with that?
these things exist, and it is not as if they are not passing hints ( unintelligible for clueless ppl) . to ask for evidence in such a situation is silly. instead you should provide evidence that caste discrimination is not taking place .
Sittingnut,
my basic answer to your request for evidence for caste discrimination is that it is you who should provide evidence for there being no caste discrimination.
Nooooooooo!
You are the one who is making an allegation so you are the one who should provide evidence to back up your allegation.
One is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Most of your comment was an (needless) attempt to prove that castism exists in Sri Lanka. That is something I know very well, thank you :-)
However the fact that castism exists doesn’t prove that “certain local media†are against Mr. Fernandopulle because of his caste.
act is these things go back. in first election for locals for one seat in early 1900’s ( electorate limited by education and wealth ) the ‘tamil’ ‘high’ caste candidate was esp. brought in from india ( by certain ’sinhala’ ancestors of a present political leader) to defeat the ‘ sinhala’ candidate from another caste through united votes of similar ‘tamil’ and ’sinhala’ voters . do you deny or even know that ? read history of that period.
Well yes and in fact it goes much much farther far back than 1911! King Dutugamunu’s son prince Saliya had to give up his claim to the crown because he took a wife who was from a (supposedly) “low†caste.
But that doesn’t prove that “certain local media†have castist motives when they attack Mr. Fernandopulle.
And yes, I did know that Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan was elected in an all island election in 1911 and I did know that that election was contested largely along caste lines :-)
absence of any mention of caste in an interview is not evidence of there being no caste discrimination ( do you agree ?)
Yes I agree. But I am not attempting to prove that there is no cast discrimination is Sri Lanka or that Mr. Fernandopulle never faces any caste discrimination. I am not even attempting to prove that your allegation against “certain local media†are false.
I am only challenging you to prove your allegation against “certain local mediaâ€.
When one makes an allegation, one has to be responsible and provide evidence.
i take it that you agree with the rest of my above comment ?
Nope.
i not it would be better if you come out with all the objections at once. instead of going on to comment after comment as in previous thread
I am not interested in taking up any other matter contained in that comment with you. But I reserve the right to make as many comments as I want. I might even make 2 comments in rapid sequence if that’s what I want :-)
after all you have these questions for me, only me :-) hopefully you go beyond that and will ask indi to substantiate his statements with evidence
O.K. done :-)
lol
“I am not interested in taking up any other matter contained in that comment with you. ”
why not ? i am interested in all of comment. you took only small part not the main point. in my comment above and try to concentrate the discussion only on that part . is that bc you agree with the rest. and if you disagree why take only a small part. do answer .why are you interested in only small part of my comment above? do give reasons. don’t jump out of the question.
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i on the other hand will deal with all parts in my comment including the part you deal with.
no for the fun part.
“One is presumed innocent until proven guilty.”
did i dispute that, in fact i have repeated that recently in another post. though the crime was in a different level altogether .:-)
“When one makes an allegation, one has to be responsible and provide evidence.”
thanks for repeating that again. again did i dispute that. hopefully you will remind that to veryone unprompted by me in the future.
“O.K. done :-)”
ok then i will await indi’s answers :-) (before giving a comprehensive answer to you about questions you asked from me esp since .you did not answer my questions. first come first served )
hopefully you will continue to ask questions about all the unsubstantiated allegations ( esp about sl and not limited to certain politician)in his posts. no doubt you will engage in a many comments long effort will get answers from him as you do with me (i must warn you that i have been asking him similar questions and have not received many answers). :-)
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btw you do not work for “certain local media” ? this is important if you do work in media.
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meanwhile i will give you a partial answer while you wait indi to answer and remind you of certain questions that you have to answer in order to take the argument forward.
you accept that caste discrimination in general exists. you accept that politicians old and new have been subjected to caste discrimination. but you don’t find jeyraj is subjected to caste discrimination? why ?
why do you think that while society at large is guilty, media is innocent ?
i ask from you again, do you think “that certain characteristics attributed to him are derived from disgustingly stereotyping character attributes imputed to his caste?” do you you understand what i am talking about here? now this attribution is done mainly through media. do you deny that ?
and why is there singling out of him while others make similar statements as he does? you did not answer that as well. why not pm( with ‘undiplomatic comments and opposition leader with his ‘undiplomatic’ absurd threats not to play sovereign debt?) why is that?
“did i dispute that†(one is assumed innocent until proven guilty)
You did say –
“my basic answer to your request for evidence for caste discrimination is that it is you who should provide evidence for there being no caste discrimination.â€
That is contrary to the principle that one is assumed innocent until proven guilty. You should stand by your own well established principles and provide proof for the allegations you make against the local media.
You didn’t “dispute†that one has to be responsible and provide evidence when making an allegation, oh no! You only said that your “basic answer†to being challenged to provide evidence is that it is I who should provide evidence that your allegations are false! lol
So since you admit that it is irresponsible to make allegations without providing evidence, I suggest you follow through on that and provide evidence to back up your allegation instead of expecting (and indeed, directly asking!) me to disprove your allegation. :-)
“before giving a comprehensive answer to you about questions you asked from me esp since .you did not answer my questions. first come first servedâ€
lol, now look whose “holier than thouâ€, well then practice what you preach and provide a direct answer to the question I asked you in the HSBC thread first! First come first served right? Well that question was asked before anything we discussed in this thread. :-)
One problem with answering all your questions is that you ask around 10 or 15 of them instead of doing what you should be doing, which is providing evidence to back up your allegations! Some of them are truly ridiculous, like comparing the late foreign minister Mr. Lakshman Kadiragamar to Mr. Jayraj Fernandopulle as if there wasn’t any difference between them except caste! Mr. Lakshman Kadiragamar was a great gentleman, a great patriot and he was always civil, polite and diplomatic in the usual sense of that term! The comparison you made proves nothing!
Other questions weren’t at all relevant since their purpose was merely to assert that casitsm exists in our society (duh!)
(The question about the late president Premadasa and the JVP leaders fall into that category.)
One recent question you asked is also indicative of how silly some of your questions are. You asked why the media is going easy on the opposition leader regarding threats not to pay back debt. Can’t you think of any other reason than caste difference?
I certainly can think of many possibilities! Maybe these some of these “certain media†are owned by UNP supporters or sympathisers and maybe they want to remain in the opposition leaders “good booksâ€. Maybe, that is the case, who knows?
Also attacking the ones who are in power (the government ministers) is always and everywhere much more “fashionable†than attacking those out of power!
I can think of more such possibilities, but that’ll be enough, I am sure you are capable enough to think of other possibilities on your own, if you really give it a try! :-)
(And these are only “possibilities†that I am presenting to disprove your claim that castism is necessarily the only possible motive, I am not presenting these as allegation against anyone.)
I can go on and on like that about every question you asked and demonstrate how silly it is to claim that those questions are related to the allegation you made. Castism does exist in Sri Lanka, but it isn’t bad to the point that every time someone of a certain caste is attacked or ridiculed by someone else, that castism has to be assumed as being the motive!
“do answer .why are you interested in only small part of my comment above? do give reasons. don’t jump out of the question.â€
Well I do not consider that to be “merely a small partâ€, I think accusations of castism is a serious issue.
Whether or not I choose to discuss why I take a greater interest in discussing some issues rather than other issued is my own prerogative! :-)
btw you do not work for “certain local media� this is important if you do work in media.
No I don’t.
“hopefully you will continue to ask questions about all the unsubstantiated allegationsâ€
Hopefully I will not bother! I am already cursing myself for getting into this useless discussion with you! :-)
“no doubt you will engage in a many comments long effort will get answers from him as you do with me (i must warn you that i have been asking him similar questions and have not received many answers)â€
Well thanks for the warning! lol
But if you want full marks for engaging in a many comments long effort, you’ll have to deal with the issues directly rather than obfuscate the issues. :-)
Sittingnut,
Despite repeatedly being urged to provide evidence to support your allegation that “certain local media†are hostile to Mr. Fernandopulle due to his caste, you haven’t been able to come up with a single shred of evidence to support your claim.
The only “evidence†you’ve come up is asking me dozens of questions, as if asking me question after question proves anything at all!
Do you want me and others to conclude that you don’t have any evidence to prove your allegation?
If you really believe it is irresponsible to make allegations without presenting evidence to prove those allegations, then you are welcome to do the right thing and prove the allegation you made, i.e. that certain local medai are hostile to Mr. Fernandopulle because of his caste.
Asking me questions proves nothing!
You seem to think that asking me questions endlessly is a good substitute for the need to provide evidence to prove your allegations.
I would like to inform you that this is not the case. :-)
“you accept that caste discrimination in general exists. you accept that politicians old and new have been subjected to caste discrimination. but you don’t find jeyraj is subjected to caste discrimination? why ?”
Because the mere fact that caste discrimination exists in Sri Lanka doesn’t prove that the present hostility to Mr. Fernandopulle by certain local media is motivated by castism.
Because I can think of many other possible alternative motives
Do you accept the fact that there exists castism in society is not enough to prove that “certain local media†are against Mr. Fernandopulle due to his caste rather than due to some other reason?
Adi, I don’t know if this is your first encounter with the Snut, but if it is, let me tell you that you won’t get any answers that don’t contain statistics. That’s all Snut’s limited world can comprehend. You will find if you look at the ‘Balls’ and ‘HSBC sucks’ threads on this blog, that as soon as he receives questions that he cannot provide online statistics for as an answer, he will digress onto subjects from years past, former debates on now non-existent blogs, personal attacks on the characters of bloggers, or as a last resort start asking personal questions in an attempt to put the questioner on the defensive and hopefully distracted from the real questions. He will, in fact, do everything possible to avoid looking bad or admitting he is in fact rather anal. HE’s also hoping that if he comments as much as possible on other blogs that people will link to his blog and actually give it some traffic. This is a regular occurrence and happens approximately once a quarter. But anyway, kudos to you for attempting to stay on track in the face of his obfuscations.
adi:
two comments one after another but no answers to questions . it seems you yourself realized the inadequacy of first and wrote a second to fill the obvious shortcomings. but both fail.
your main argument seem to go like this : ” you ask questions instead of writing statements, therefore you have no evidence to prove your contention” ( very david blacker like argument and on cue he comes to your support )
you should know that asking questions is a good way to arrive at truth and bring out the errors in other person’s arguments. ask socrates .
so you are wrong when you say , “Asking me questions proves nothing!”
your present difficulty does not invalidate the 2500+ year long use of questions to prove ppl wrong .
One problem with answering all your questions is that you ask around 10 or 15 of them instead of doing what you should be doing, which is providing evidence to back up your allegations!
lol
fact is if you answered the questions truthfully, you would be forced to admit the truth of my contention that certain local media’s hostility to jeyraj is caste based. if you answered them falsely i will prove that you answer falsely. aware of this you avoid the questions. pathetic.
(only question you answer is the one about your not working in local media. which i specifically separated from the rest bc it is not part of my main argument)
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You should stand by your own well established principles and provide proof for the allegations you make against the local media…. provide evidence to back up your allegation instead of expecting (and indeed, directly asking!) me to disprove your allegation. :-)
i stand by my contention and principles. unlike you who bc of some unexplained motives( see bottom ) adapts my participles and apply them partially .
you already have the evidence to prove the truth of my contention as i pointed out above. you just do not admit it. my questions are aimed at forcing you to admit that evidence. you know that and avoid answering. :-)
lol, now look whose “holier than thouâ€, well then practice what you preach and provide a direct answer to the question I asked you in the HSBC thread first! First come first served right? Well that question was asked before anything we discussed in this thread. :-)
did i tell you to practice what i don’t? no i told you to take your time and answer the questions (read above) as i take my time (after specifically informing you of the delay with reasons )to answer your questions in other thread. :-) that you felt the need to misrepresent what i said says a lot about your way of arguing. or are you really in a hurry and did not read?
don’t be in such a hurry like blacker. he makes mistakes bc he reads only parts of comments . now you are following in his footsteps. of course you are free to do so if you want :-)
you again proves you have not read my comment when you say i compare kadiragamar and jeyaraj as “if there wasn’t any difference between them except caste”. (i did not prejudge both ppl as you do, but i certainly did not write that). read what i wrote before writing such silly and false stuff. but given that your main desire is to avoid the question you have no other option.
your claim that castism is necessarily the only possible motive
did i make that claim? “necessarily the only possible motive”, where ? you as usual is arguing against ghosts . and deliberate misrepresentation . given your untenable position you have no choice perhaps.
Castism does exist in Sri Lanka, but it isn’t bad to the point that every time someone of a certain caste is attacked or ridiculed by someone else, that castism has to be assumed as being the motive!
again i ask did i say it was the only motive? where? again you are assuming things i have not said.
there may be other motives as well but given the very real fact of caste discrimination is also a motive esp when ppl are singled out and certain stereotyping words and attributes are mentioned
only thing i will not do, as i explained from the first, is to explain the attributes etc to clueless ppl.
as you say caste discrimination does exist in sl and there are many historical examples recent as well as old relating to politicians. in such a situation when someone of a certain caste is attacked caste plays a part and when some ppl of certain castes are singled out when several have said similar things, that is noticeable. so yes when jeyraj is attacked caste prejudices of certain local media is a motivating factor esp when he is singled out. do you deny any part of this?
you’ll have to deal with the issues directly rather than obfuscate the issues.
well i do deal with issues directly. as in all the comments addressed or referring to indi. here.
in fact if i write long ( but not ‘obfuscating’ ) comment it is in reply to another long comment from a person like you.
it is you, who by avoiding questions, that does not deal directly with issues. if you want to deal directly answer the questions. take your time as i sometimes do, there is no hurry, but answer.
on the other hand if you do not want to admit the truth of my contention you have to avoid answering the the questions as you did above.
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Well I do not consider that to be “merely a small partâ€, I think accusations of castism is a serious issue.
another blatant misrepresentation, in your effort to cover up inadequacy of your arguments.
did i say caste discrimination was not a serious issue ? words i used were “small part of my comment above”. and as everyone can read it was in fact a small part of my comment at the head this comment nest.
i was asking you as to why you avoided dealing with the rest of my comment.( and you used the above misrepresentation to avoid that question)
so will i ask again why is it that you avoid answering questions on the other things touched in that comments . (even going in your earlier comment as far as to to imply we were going offtopic by doing so, forgetting which comment is at the head here ) why is that? not bc it will displease indi surely ?:-)
so far you ( who appeared in last thread from nowhere) comes to the defense of indi when i leave a comment. you rightly ask me to come up with evidence to back my arguments, but till i prompted, did not ask anybody else. even after that you are certainly not showing the same ( comments on comments )desire to get the answers from indi etc. why is that? or do you deny all that ?
when someone (who presumably i have not met before on or off line ) come after me like that ( with one after another unsuccessful arguments and comments ) i am curious . and a little concerned. so i ask why this fascination with my comments here . after all this is indi’s blog. seriously why ?
i asked that question before. do answer ( take your time if you want but answer )
or if you prefer to avoid and say “asking questions prove nothing” you can do that too. lol
OK, to sum up, this Sittingsnut/Sunanda fellow admits he has no answers or evidence, but just more questions, and that he has the Reader’s Digest book of Famous Quotations as well as the Smart Quotes for Dummies (abridged version) next to his computer. Can we move on now, and can someone go and post on the bugger’s blog so that he has something to do when his wife chases him out of the house.
typical response.
when they cannot engage in rational debate they imagine things. adi cannot answer questions that if answered would prove my contention. so what is the response they adapt? post silly comments using another name .
who is sunanda btw? again a typical mistake.
(my real name which is quite different is ( and was from the beginning ) available to anybody who asks through email on a reciprocal basis )
but then some ppl esp his dogs must have been hurt when indi’s hidden identity as padashow was revealed. but don’t blame me . david blacker and indi himseslf revealed it when they were riled up . i didn’t . i just riled them up :-)
You got me. I am Padashow. I have shitloads of time and only I could have known that Sitting Nut once sent flowers to Electra. I was the only one who attended the play and the only friend of hers that could have possibly heard the funny story. Rue to me for revealing that smoking gun in my arrogance.
For the record – I was also Prabhakaran on Facebook, ran the VK Samaranayake blog, invented the Internet, and am the real Slim Shady. I am also Keyser Soze.
when they cannot engage in rational debate they imagine things. adi cannot answer questions that if answered would prove my contention. so what is the response they adapt? post silly comments using another name .
That’s yet another baseless and false allegation!
I am not even going to ask what evidence you have to back this one because you cannot possibly have any evidence because I didn’t write that.
You clearly have many “enemies” all over cyber space. Maybe one of them took delight in you being cornered and not being able to provide evidence and enjoyed seeing how you desperately scramble for lame excuses for your inability to provide evidence. Have you thought about that possibility?
Or is it beyong your congnitive capacity to take that possibility into consideration?
I cannot possibly take responsibility for every time someone decides to attack you here or anywhere else using a different name.
Find some way of dealing with it that doesn’t involve baseless allegations.
I still inetend to reply to the comment you made before the one containing the false and baseless allegation b.t.w
They all were having black label at water’s edge… So much for “mathata thitha”
Chandare stop attacking people personally… People like you who support P.Mahinda will go down to any level make your point. Ge a life……By the way Jeyraj has accepted the fact that mahinda paid the tigers money. At least the bugger had some sense in him to accept that….
I do not want to slander anyone.I don’t care about Ranil’s or Mangala’s sexuality.It was Mangala who accused Ranil of hiding behind a phony marriage in late 90′s.I just wanted set the record straight that Mangala does not hide his sexuality like Indi says.
Indi accuses two people .What I’m saying is that one is not guilty.
I would not give shit about the other persons preferences.I will judge him on his actions.
Indi,
None of the above is not a valid option. A country needs a government, even a bad one. Otherwise anarchy will set in and we’ll be ruled by local war lords (like the way Somalia was sometime back) and they will be worse than any politician ever way!
True. I’m not for no government, just smaller government. In Sri Lanka I’d even settle for ‘large’ rather than ‘ridiculously enormous’
What’s wrong with anarchy?
It’s so 1960s.
If you really want to know the answer read this article (written in 2004) -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4017147.stm
Quote -
“I just want a government, any government will do,” one man told me.
Anarchy is where we are going. The rule of law breaking down, a bureacracy that is all but ineffective – so nothing ever gets done, crumbling infrastructure (provide your own water, power and eventually roads or drains as well)
Indi, do you have any evidence to back up the allegations you made in this post?
In particular, I would like to know whether you have any evidence to prove that Mr. Fernandopulle used your tax
money to fund his party rather than his private funds.
Also I would like you to give evidence to prove your baseless and irresponsible insinuation regarding a prominent opposition politician.
I will not ask you to give evidence to prove that Mr Mangala Samarasigha is a coward since Chandare has already convincingly pointed out your error.
INDI ,
Finally you realized the truth,we need another party, a party which truly wants our country to develop,we need to change this system, yes we need change, today india announced that they are no longer a developing country. In 70 we were more developed than india,these political fuckers ruined it all, we need some young people in the parliament now.
It may surprise you to know that we are still more developed than India.
Please tell me in which way we are developed than india? i would like to know…….oh transparency international found that Sri Lanka is more corrupted than india last year (Is that what you are saying)
How would you measure how developed a country is?
Is it per capita gross domestic product?
Is it the adult litracy rate?
Is it life expectancy, i.e. how long on average people live?
Is it infant mortality, i.e how many new born babies die within 1 year?
Sri Lanka is ahead of India on any one of those indicators. Just do a web search, statistics for these things are available all over the place. Don’t be taken in by all the hype.
To say that India is a developed country is at best a joke. It is progressing very fast and at this rate they will become a rich country very soon, but as of now it is still a very poor country. I really doubt if they were crazy to declare themselves a developed country already. Do you have any references to that claim? I did a web search and couldn’t find any article anywhere stating that India has declared itself a developed country day before yesterday!
i was referring to Education, Science, Technology
Our statistics are high because we have very less amount of people comparing to India, we don’t have any major development in our country since 80′s apart from general development which affects to the whole world, but India is far more developed in sectors i have mentioned above,for example indias MIT,Dillhi,IIT is among the top 100 universities in the world read
link
But its commonly believed that india is going to be a developed country in 2020
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jun/11inter.htm
AT LEAST THEY HAVE A PLANE TO BE, ASK A SRI LANKAN POLITICIAN WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOE NEXT YEAR?
“In 70 we were more developed than india,these political fuckers ruined it all”
India’s big boost was from 1990 onwards, following Manmohan Singh’s reforms.
Kavuda huththo jorkes danne? Magey nama Andare…apey aiyya Chandare…whatever he says, goes!
Reading through all this makes me wonder if we should revert try to appoint an aristocracy. Altough this might go bit out of theme- here are some opinions of mine what differences are between modern dictatorship and aristocratic feudal dictatorship (for those who like to call it this way)
- in feudal times states were rather small, and even they were often built from small autonomous parts, therefore,there was enough place for people who can be considered elite and also a more competition. This way, bad leadership resulted in faster collapse of the reign.
On the contrary, in modern times states tend to be larger (and much larger) and hardly centralized, in this case (as is obvious in SL) a rather small elite is created and these people are facing a large opposition of people who claim to be suitable enough to take the lead – result is corruption of those people or annihilation. (Same goes for many people in the modern era; many are suitable for doing something, but very few have more than limited skills, hence the need for useless jobs to be created).
Since the elite dont need to compete and are much harder to overthrow, sooner or later the situation is likely to degrade. After the fall or flight of the able elite (as is witnessed by mass brain drain from Sri Lanka) there are no people able to take lead in important areas, because most people were only taught to follow. This is my main point- not only against large dictator led states but against all large states. Capitalism seems to corrupt people most successively of all regimes.
One historical example – hopefully you wont see it as redundant – at the end of third century the competent emperor, Diocletian, took lead in Roman Empire. He gave strict orders and many people were bound to their jobs or positions in political structures. This worked for a while, until the imperial bloodline produced good leaders- after that ended there was no one to take leadership – people were used to following and worshiping emperor but not how to act independantly. I think this might be possible even now if Sri Lanka is taken over by dictatorship – people are degenerate enough now to follow, but they are too cowardly to stand against an incompetant leader, so feudal dictatorship will work for a while but won’t work for long in a country like SL.
i was just thinking…
so our money is spent (wasted) on expensive parties for politicians
and all we do is make a blog post… bitch about it while having a few beers with some friends…
our (democratically) elected leaders will still continue to spend (waste) tax money
and the cycle continues…
we citizens (peasants) are nothing after we’ve (democratically) elected our (idiot) leaders
hmmmm…. pathetic isnt it????
much anger i sense in young sittingnut
sittingnut – why are you so hostile??
off topic -> while all this was going on there were these two scientists who claimed that they made a quantum tunneling observation to suggest that photons can travel faster than the speed of light
http://www.beppegrillo.it/english.php
if u go thru this blog, u’ll c my (original) country is the same. this has ahppened recently and could be applied to seri lanka
we had to resort to web born protests, then to the streets, collected signatures for a popular law (50.000 needed, over 200.000 in 2 hours collected). the popular law to be discussed in the italian parliament will be 3 points:
1- mps/ministers/etc. foung guilty in the past and future can’t sit in parliament.
2- they can’t have more than 2 terms in office
3- at elections, parties must indicate candidates (this applies to Italy)
all this is to combat corruption (in ITaly). could it be done in sri lanka? can’t ppl collect signatures fo referendums etc? cant’ “popular laws” with signatures, be discussed passed here? anyone know the law?
check this great comedian’s blog, it’s also in english. he started his blog, got pissed off, created a MASSIVE movement. of course snobbed by all media, but made it thanks to his blog. theres a cahcne of getting rid of 181 corrupt mps and around 200 corrupt senators from the italian gvmnt!?!?!!!!!!at last…..!how many would disappear in sl?
p.s.
adi, ur funny!