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	<title>Comments on: Psychology of Flaming</title>
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	<description>I'm a Sri Lankan American Canadian graduate trying to make something of myself in Colombo</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-97404</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why I Blog Under an Alias &#171; A Janusis</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-43070</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I Blog Under an Alias &#171; A Janusis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] names. Indi.ca for example. But he has a price to pay for revealing his identity online. He suffers flaming and very many personal attacks on his family. Though the Oscar for Receiving the Most Personal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjana Hattotuwa</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-41725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjana Hattotuwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)</description>
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		<title>By: indi</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-41718</link>
		<dc:creator>indi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you canâ€™t see my facial expressions, but would you really be this rude in public?</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjana Hattotuwa</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-41716</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjana Hattotuwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Indi,

The Lirneasia blog,which I believe you must have helped set up, has the only implementation of the IP to Nation plugin that I&#039;ve seen on a local blog, and on occasion, has confused some people by displaying an erroneous flag. As for online conversations being outside the normal social environs we are used to, I wonder whether with the increasing use of chatrooms, IM&#039;s, email, blogs, new media et al (including games such as Second Life), we&#039;ll soon encounter a time where the difference between &quot;real&quot; and &quot;virtual&quot; interactions becomes rather blurred. As a researcher, I&#039;m interested in the spill over effects of real world problems into virtual worlds (say in the creation of negotiations support systems and One Text processes, both of which I&#039;ve helped engineer  in Sri Lanka and Nepal) and vice versa, such as with the murder of gamers because of in-game disputes over artifacts such as a swords or magic portion.   

The identity cost you bring out is, if I understand you correctly, linked to the frequency and qualitative nature of comments on a blogs. Groundviews for instance gets noticeably less comments than Moju did. I don&#039;t have the stats for Moju, but what Groundviews does have is around 40 return visitors (and around 300+ unique visitors) who visit the site daily, which frankly, 2 months after its launch, better than I expected. I also get most of my traffic from outside Kottu - from http://www.infolanka.com/org/srilanka/news.html.

The point I also want to stress is that flamers can, in the rare occasion, change for the better. In the case of a notable and particularly vicious troll on Moju, subsequent to Moju&#039;s closure and some interactions with him over email, we now have a entente cordiale where I&#039;ve recognised and appreciated his ability to write, when he put his mind to it, in a manner that engaged with the topic /post as opposed to diatribes against the author. He now comments rather regularly to Groundviews, and I&#039;m surprised that though his views remain extreme and at times ill-informed, the manner in which he presents them is so markedly different to his tone, language and approach to Moju.

As for Sittingnut, I left a comment on his blog today (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13644607&amp;postID=117166429307925673) after reading a few weeks of Groundviews, Sanjana, CPA, InfoShare bashing that captures my thoughts on the matters he raises. Clearly, since this is a voice most of us know from the erstwhile Moju&#039;s heyday, while engagement is often futile, hope springs eternal. 
 
Thanks for the great post. 

Sanjana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Indi,</p>
<p>The Lirneasia blog,which I believe you must have helped set up, has the only implementation of the IP to Nation plugin that I&#8217;ve seen on a local blog, and on occasion, has confused some people by displaying an erroneous flag. As for online conversations being outside the normal social environs we are used to, I wonder whether with the increasing use of chatrooms, IM&#8217;s, email, blogs, new media et al (including games such as Second Life), we&#8217;ll soon encounter a time where the difference between &#8220;real&#8221; and &#8220;virtual&#8221; interactions becomes rather blurred. As a researcher, I&#8217;m interested in the spill over effects of real world problems into virtual worlds (say in the creation of negotiations support systems and One Text processes, both of which I&#8217;ve helped engineer  in Sri Lanka and Nepal) and vice versa, such as with the murder of gamers because of in-game disputes over artifacts such as a swords or magic portion.   </p>
<p>The identity cost you bring out is, if I understand you correctly, linked to the frequency and qualitative nature of comments on a blogs. Groundviews for instance gets noticeably less comments than Moju did. I don&#8217;t have the stats for Moju, but what Groundviews does have is around 40 return visitors (and around 300+ unique visitors) who visit the site daily, which frankly, 2 months after its launch, better than I expected. I also get most of my traffic from outside Kottu &#8211; from <a href="http://www.infolanka.com/org/srilanka/news.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infolanka.com/org/srilanka/news.html</a>.</p>
<p>The point I also want to stress is that flamers can, in the rare occasion, change for the better. In the case of a notable and particularly vicious troll on Moju, subsequent to Moju&#8217;s closure and some interactions with him over email, we now have a entente cordiale where I&#8217;ve recognised and appreciated his ability to write, when he put his mind to it, in a manner that engaged with the topic /post as opposed to diatribes against the author. He now comments rather regularly to Groundviews, and I&#8217;m surprised that though his views remain extreme and at times ill-informed, the manner in which he presents them is so markedly different to his tone, language and approach to Moju.</p>
<p>As for Sittingnut, I left a comment on his blog today (<a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13644607&#038;postID=117166429307925673" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13644607&#038;postID=117166429307925673</a>) after reading a few weeks of Groundviews, Sanjana, CPA, InfoShare bashing that captures my thoughts on the matters he raises. Clearly, since this is a voice most of us know from the erstwhile Moju&#8217;s heyday, while engagement is often futile, hope springs eternal. </p>
<p>Thanks for the great post. </p>
<p>Sanjana</p>
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		<title>By: sittingnut</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-41699</link>
		<dc:creator>sittingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>irony of speaking to sanjana about civility! and others holding forth about effects of anonymity.  i suppose those who break the rules knows all about keeping them too.</description>
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		<title>By: Theena</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2007/02/psychology-of-flaming/comment-page-1/#comment-41696</link>
		<dc:creator>Theena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read, Indi. 

Just a thought related to your comment moderation needs. 

Perhaps you should consider asking people to register a username before commenting here. I know it may seem excessive for a personal blog, but I am sure it&#039;ll go some way in weeding out the idiots. I&#039;d consider using that in tandem with the IP To Nation plugin, and any other tool that will help &#039;attach identity&#039; to some of your readers. 

Also, just out of curiosity, do you have a &#039;Report Comment&#039; feature? It&#039;ll encourage some of the more sensible members of your readership to take the responsibility and report posts that cross the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read, Indi. </p>
<p>Just a thought related to your comment moderation needs. </p>
<p>Perhaps you should consider asking people to register a username before commenting here. I know it may seem excessive for a personal blog, but I am sure it&#8217;ll go some way in weeding out the idiots. I&#8217;d consider using that in tandem with the IP To Nation plugin, and any other tool that will help &#8216;attach identity&#8217; to some of your readers. </p>
<p>Also, just out of curiosity, do you have a &#8216;Report Comment&#8217; feature? It&#8217;ll encourage some of the more sensible members of your readership to take the responsibility and report posts that cross the line.</p>
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