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	<title>Comments on: The Monks Who Stole Christmas</title>
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	<description>I'm a Sri Lankan American Canadian graduate trying to make something of myself in Colombo</description>
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		<title>By: Lankapura</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-101079</link>
		<dc:creator>Lankapura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were Jesus Iâ€™d make sure I have with me a big fat hydrogen bomb when I make my second coming so that I can drop that motherfucker square on top of the Vatican. Thereâ€™s only one thing worse than getting crucified in front of your own mother and disciples for shit that some other motherfuckers did and thatâ€™s getting to know that two thousand years later creepy, robe-wearing, bible-wielding, lazy-headed, rich-assed pedophiles are sticking their flesh-crosses into the holy grails of preteen altar boys and girls and are using your name to perpetrate that shit.

The moment somebody starts violently preaching against sexual morality or premarital sex or homosexuality or sodomy or pedophilia or anything even remotely sexual you can bet your entire life savings that that preacher is one horny-assed pervert with a boner the size of a scepter just dying to rape the shit out of the first piece of ass he can get his hands on. Even if itâ€™s a kid barely out of preschool. And thatâ€™s no exception for Hindus, Muslims, Christians, and Jews. But the Catholic Priests seem to be taking sodomy and pedophilia to a whole new level that even Michael Jacksonâ€™s going â€œThese guys make me look like Mother Fucking Teresaâ€. A New York Times survey in 2003 showed that over 4,200 sexual abuse claims were made against 1,200 Catholic Priests since 1940. Now, Iâ€™m all for the idea of innocent until proven guilty but when you have 4,200 children saying you fucked them in the ass, you are pretty much guilty. (Google New York Times Survey Catholic Sex Scandal if you think Iâ€™m making this shit up). Those numbers must have shot up faster than Keith Richards with a bag of cocaine in the last four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were Jesus Iâ€™d make sure I have with me a big fat hydrogen bomb when I make my second coming so that I can drop that motherfucker square on top of the Vatican. Thereâ€™s only one thing worse than getting crucified in front of your own mother and disciples for shit that some other motherfuckers did and thatâ€™s getting to know that two thousand years later creepy, robe-wearing, bible-wielding, lazy-headed, rich-assed pedophiles are sticking their flesh-crosses into the holy grails of preteen altar boys and girls and are using your name to perpetrate that shit.</p>
<p>The moment somebody starts violently preaching against sexual morality or premarital sex or homosexuality or sodomy or pedophilia or anything even remotely sexual you can bet your entire life savings that that preacher is one horny-assed pervert with a boner the size of a scepter just dying to rape the shit out of the first piece of ass he can get his hands on. Even if itâ€™s a kid barely out of preschool. And thatâ€™s no exception for Hindus, Muslims, Christians, and Jews. But the Catholic Priests seem to be taking sodomy and pedophilia to a whole new level that even Michael Jacksonâ€™s going â€œThese guys make me look like Mother Fucking Teresaâ€. A New York Times survey in 2003 showed that over 4,200 sexual abuse claims were made against 1,200 Catholic Priests since 1940. Now, Iâ€™m all for the idea of innocent until proven guilty but when you have 4,200 children saying you fucked them in the ass, you are pretty much guilty. (Google New York Times Survey Catholic Sex Scandal if you think Iâ€™m making this shit up). Those numbers must have shot up faster than Keith Richards with a bag of cocaine in the last four years.</p>
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		<title>By: Vimalakirti</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-99100</link>
		<dc:creator>Vimalakirti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I throw in my heart for you Sri Lankans. I always try to support through Sarvodaya. I am happy that you reject christianity and all it&#039;s pomp. (pun intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I throw in my heart for you Sri Lankans. I always try to support through Sarvodaya. I am happy that you reject christianity and all it&#8217;s pomp. (pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: comment</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-56535</link>
		<dc:creator>comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)...parody? (I hope!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:-)&#8230;parody? (I hope!)</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-55394</link>
		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all buddhist fanatics... im proud to say that ive suceeded in converting five buddhists in to christianity and in still 21 years old!..i will carry on gods command to go in to the world and preach the gospel.. the good news. people are perishing..theyre bound and gagged by the devil. they will face the second death.. i ask you christians not to give up in the face of persecution but to press on to the glory that is in jesus christ our LORD... yes Jesus is LORD.
in the begining was the word and the word was with god, and the word was god. the word became flesh and dwelth among us&#039;... this proves that jesus was indeed god incarnate..ONWARDS  CHRISTIAN SOLIDIER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all buddhist fanatics&#8230; im proud to say that ive suceeded in converting five buddhists in to christianity and in still 21 years old!..i will carry on gods command to go in to the world and preach the gospel.. the good news. people are perishing..theyre bound and gagged by the devil. they will face the second death.. i ask you christians not to give up in the face of persecution but to press on to the glory that is in jesus christ our LORD&#8230; yes Jesus is LORD.<br />
in the begining was the word and the word was with god, and the word was god. the word became flesh and dwelth among us&#8217;&#8230; this proves that jesus was indeed god incarnate..ONWARDS  CHRISTIAN SOLIDIER!</p>
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		<title>By: indi</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-40158</link>
		<dc:creator>indi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the lesson in compassion and right speech</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the lesson in compassion and right speech</p>
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		<title>By: Bheegi</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-40096</link>
		<dc:creator>Bheegi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No western country with a Christian majority officially celebrates ANY sacred day of non-Christians. But it is apparently Sri Lanka that is discriminatory. All the Scandinavian countries not only consitutionally require the head of the state to be Christian, but they must also be Evangelical Lutheran. And the head of the state in England not only has to be Christian but belong to the Church of England. In Norway it is required by the constitution that the majority of members of parliament be Evangelical Lutheran. In the USA all currency carries the title &quot;In God We Trust&quot; and chilren must take the pledge of allegiance with the words &quot;Under God&quot;, only Bibles are available for swearing in - if you happen to use a Quran you kick up a shit storm. How strange in a land that prides itself on being a land of immigrants. The fact is people in Sri Lanka take their freedoms and rights for granted. Assholes like Indi expect Christmas to be the biggest and best celebration in Sri Lanka when only around 7% of the population follows the Christian religion. And then they complain about how the majority Buddhists are responsible for the fact that Christmas isn&#039;t the biggest and best celebration. Sri Lanka celebrates all the major religions like few other countries do. The so-called western democracies are very exclusivist when it comes to religion, they only celebrate their Jedeo Christian heritage.  Indi needs to stop being so hateful towards  Buddhists.  It is really ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No western country with a Christian majority officially celebrates ANY sacred day of non-Christians. But it is apparently Sri Lanka that is discriminatory. All the Scandinavian countries not only consitutionally require the head of the state to be Christian, but they must also be Evangelical Lutheran. And the head of the state in England not only has to be Christian but belong to the Church of England. In Norway it is required by the constitution that the majority of members of parliament be Evangelical Lutheran. In the USA all currency carries the title &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; and chilren must take the pledge of allegiance with the words &#8220;Under God&#8221;, only Bibles are available for swearing in &#8211; if you happen to use a Quran you kick up a shit storm. How strange in a land that prides itself on being a land of immigrants. The fact is people in Sri Lanka take their freedoms and rights for granted. Assholes like Indi expect Christmas to be the biggest and best celebration in Sri Lanka when only around 7% of the population follows the Christian religion. And then they complain about how the majority Buddhists are responsible for the fact that Christmas isn&#8217;t the biggest and best celebration. Sri Lanka celebrates all the major religions like few other countries do. The so-called western democracies are very exclusivist when it comes to religion, they only celebrate their Jedeo Christian heritage.  Indi needs to stop being so hateful towards  Buddhists.  It is really ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloudy</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-40087</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever wondered, why the Christian religion has countless denominations? 
Because of the inherent flaws in the teachings.

Buddhism will prevail &amp; no one question Buddhaâ€™s teachings, except the fools who cannot comprehend the deeper teachings.
So letâ€™s mock the followers of Buddhism or rather, who pretend to follow for their personal gain â€¦.eg some monksâ€¦â€¦..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever wondered, why the Christian religion has countless denominations?<br />
Because of the inherent flaws in the teachings.</p>
<p>Buddhism will prevail &amp; no one question Buddhaâ€™s teachings, except the fools who cannot comprehend the deeper teachings.<br />
So letâ€™s mock the followers of Buddhism or rather, who pretend to follow for their personal gain â€¦.eg some monksâ€¦â€¦..</p>
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		<title>By: Cloudy</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-40083</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what the heck. Letâ€™s just all celebrate Christmas &amp; Easter with Santa &amp; Easter Bunny &amp; be done with the rest. Isnâ€™t that much more cuter &amp; fashionable than Vesak? Oh la la 
They come from the west &amp; mostly white-skins celebrate them.
So, let us join in.

For who ever said about Christians (in Christian countries) having just two hols, thatâ€™s not the caseâ€¦â€¦â€¦
Itâ€™s not just Good Friday &amp; Christmas. There is Easter Sunday &amp; since itâ€™s a Sunday, invariably Monday is a holiday. Then thereâ€™s Boxing Day, and invariably other hols for  the respective countriesâ€™ representative Saint.
Please donâ€™t come back with the â€œbut with Buddhism, thereâ€™s an invariable holiday once a monthâ€ 
I know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what the heck. Letâ€™s just all celebrate Christmas &amp; Easter with Santa &amp; Easter Bunny &amp; be done with the rest. Isnâ€™t that much more cuter &amp; fashionable than Vesak? Oh la la<br />
They come from the west &amp; mostly white-skins celebrate them.<br />
So, let us join in.</p>
<p>For who ever said about Christians (in Christian countries) having just two hols, thatâ€™s not the caseâ€¦â€¦â€¦<br />
Itâ€™s not just Good Friday &amp; Christmas. There is Easter Sunday &amp; since itâ€™s a Sunday, invariably Monday is a holiday. Then thereâ€™s Boxing Day, and invariably other hols for  the respective countriesâ€™ representative Saint.<br />
Please donâ€™t come back with the â€œbut with Buddhism, thereâ€™s an invariable holiday once a monthâ€<br />
I know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadakathayan</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37605</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadakathayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rez: Id ul Fitr is a public holiday in the Phillipines, a Christian majority country.  In Ethiopia, also a Christian country, Id e Milad, Id ul Fitr and Id ul Azha are all public holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rez: Id ul Fitr is a public holiday in the Phillipines, a Christian majority country.  In Ethiopia, also a Christian country, Id e Milad, Id ul Fitr and Id ul Azha are all public holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blacker</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37560</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve no problem with Sri Lanka celebrating Poya days. But if you&#039;re going to have 15 Buddhist holidays a year, I see no harm in having one or two from other religions. Only one Christian holy day is an official holiday to 15 or 16 Buddhist ones. Seems fair to me. You&#039;re the one complaining about Christmas. Besides, if the latter was conducted the way it&#039;s supposed to be (in a religious manner) I could understand your need for bigotry; but it&#039;s just an excuse to have fun and make money. So party on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve no problem with Sri Lanka celebrating Poya days. But if you&#8217;re going to have 15 Buddhist holidays a year, I see no harm in having one or two from other religions. Only one Christian holy day is an official holiday to 15 or 16 Buddhist ones. Seems fair to me. You&#8217;re the one complaining about Christmas. Besides, if the latter was conducted the way it&#8217;s supposed to be (in a religious manner) I could understand your need for bigotry; but it&#8217;s just an excuse to have fun and make money. So party on.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37463</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if Sri Lanka celebrates Poya days? It&#039;s a majority Buddhist country. But it celebrates the sacred says of all major religions OFFICIALLY. The fact remains that no Christian majority country officially celebrates ANY sacred days of the Buddhists, Hindus or Muslims. France has an 8% Muslim population like Sri Lanka - absolutely NOTHING for Muslims there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if Sri Lanka celebrates Poya days? It&#8217;s a majority Buddhist country. But it celebrates the sacred says of all major religions OFFICIALLY. The fact remains that no Christian majority country officially celebrates ANY sacred days of the Buddhists, Hindus or Muslims. France has an 8% Muslim population like Sri Lanka &#8211; absolutely NOTHING for Muslims there.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37252</link>
		<dc:creator>Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think he is a bigot. Quite opinionated but not a bigot. 
My goodness! this discussion has even spilled out into the new year..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think he is a bigot. Quite opinionated but not a bigot.<br />
My goodness! this discussion has even spilled out into the new year..</p>
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		<title>By: David Blacker</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37128</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No majority Christian nation has a holiday each month either, like we do with our poya days (not to mention vesak, etc). Most Christian majority countries have two Christian holidays -- Good Friday &amp; Christmas. So since we like our hols so much, what&#039;s  wrong with celebrating Christmas too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No majority Christian nation has a holiday each month either, like we do with our poya days (not to mention vesak, etc). Most Christian majority countries have two Christian holidays &#8212; Good Friday &amp; Christmas. So since we like our hols so much, what&#8217;s  wrong with celebrating Christmas too?</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37118</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, okay, my dear Sinhala Christian fanatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, okay, my dear Sinhala Christian fanatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37113</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Dhammika,  you see, now that Indrajit is upset that his favourite street isn&#039;t festooned with Christmas decorations that are eyesores, he tries to banshee-scream about it and find someone to blame. His favourite scapegoat is &quot;the monks.&quot; From the failure of the UNP to the ripe haemorrhoid bothering his pampered little kalu sudda ass - it&#039;s all the monks&#039; fault. 

Too much gas? It&#039;s the monks&#039; fault. 

Sri Lanka lost the cricket? It&#039;s the monks&#039; fault. 

Electricity cuts? It&#039;s the monks&#039; fault.

Ranil had a bad hair day and Indi&#039;s efforts at running the UNP blog amounted to jack shit? It&#039;s the monks&#039; fault. 

93% of Sri Lankans who are non-Christians don&#039;t really celebrate Christmas? It&#039;s the monks&#039; fault. 

How dare all these non-Christians not celebrate Christmas! Shock! Horror! Totally abominable! No bright sparkly bulbs! I mean, who gives a shit about the war, child soldiers, bombs or refugees? It&#039;s the bright sparkly Christmas lights and decorations and candy canes that really matter.

Sadly this is what happens when two faced sivalas like Indi are brought up in The Jesus Land of America, and then come down to live in Sri Lanka where they eyeball everything with their beady little Christian fundamentalist eyes, thump bibles and scream of fire and brimstone and evil Buddhist conspiracies. It&#039;s time for you to get into a rehabilitation clinic and stop being such a crack-and-attention whore, Indi - it&#039;s bad for your health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Dhammika,  you see, now that Indrajit is upset that his favourite street isn&#8217;t festooned with Christmas decorations that are eyesores, he tries to banshee-scream about it and find someone to blame. His favourite scapegoat is &#8220;the monks.&#8221; From the failure of the UNP to the ripe haemorrhoid bothering his pampered little kalu sudda ass &#8211; it&#8217;s all the monks&#8217; fault. </p>
<p>Too much gas? It&#8217;s the monks&#8217; fault. </p>
<p>Sri Lanka lost the cricket? It&#8217;s the monks&#8217; fault. </p>
<p>Electricity cuts? It&#8217;s the monks&#8217; fault.</p>
<p>Ranil had a bad hair day and Indi&#8217;s efforts at running the UNP blog amounted to jack shit? It&#8217;s the monks&#8217; fault. </p>
<p>93% of Sri Lankans who are non-Christians don&#8217;t really celebrate Christmas? It&#8217;s the monks&#8217; fault. </p>
<p>How dare all these non-Christians not celebrate Christmas! Shock! Horror! Totally abominable! No bright sparkly bulbs! I mean, who gives a shit about the war, child soldiers, bombs or refugees? It&#8217;s the bright sparkly Christmas lights and decorations and candy canes that really matter.</p>
<p>Sadly this is what happens when two faced sivalas like Indi are brought up in The Jesus Land of America, and then come down to live in Sri Lanka where they eyeball everything with their beady little Christian fundamentalist eyes, thump bibles and scream of fire and brimstone and evil Buddhist conspiracies. It&#8217;s time for you to get into a rehabilitation clinic and stop being such a crack-and-attention whore, Indi &#8211; it&#8217;s bad for your health.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37112</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, have a nice long read of this website, send the link to your priest father as well:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, have a nice long read of this website, send the link to your priest father as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37110</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can it be free choice if &quot;God&quot; already knows what you&#039;re going to decide? It&#039;s only an ILLUSION of free choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can it be free choice if &#8220;God&#8221; already knows what you&#8217;re going to decide? It&#8217;s only an ILLUSION of free choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37108</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of this book is threefold. Firstly it aims to critically examine Christianity and thereby highlight the logical, philosophical and ethical problems in Christian dogma. In doing this I hope to be able to provide Buddhists with facts which they can use when Christians attempt to evangelize them. This book should make such encounters more fair, and hopefully also make it more likely that Buddhists will remain Buddhists. As it is, many Buddhists know little of their own religion and nothing about Christianity - which makes it difficult for them to answer the questions Christians ask or to rebut the claims they make.

The second aim of this book is to help any Christians who might read it to understand why some people are not, and never will be, Christians. Hopefully, this understanding will help them to develop an acceptance of and thereby genuine friendship with Buddhists, rather than relating to them only as potential converts. In order to do this, I have raised as many difficult questions as possible and not a few home truths. If it appears sometimes that I have been hard on Christianity, I hope this will not be interpreted as being motivated by malice. I was a Christian for many years and I still retain a fond regard, and even admiration, for some aspects of Christianity. For me, Jesus&#039; teachings were an important step in my becoming a Buddhist and I think I am a better Buddhist as a result. However when Christians claim, as many do with such insistence, that their religion alone is true, then they must be prepared to answer doubts which others might express about their religion.

The third aim of this book is to awaken in Buddhists a deeper appreciation for their own religion. In some Asian countries Buddhism is thought of an out-of-date superstition while Christianity is seen as a religion which has all the answers. As these countries become more Westernized, Christianity with its &quot;modern&quot; image begins to look increasingly attractive. I think this book will amply demonstrate that Buddhism is able to ask questions of Christianity which it has great difficulties in answering, and at the same time to offer explanations to life&#039;s puzzles which make Christian explanations look rather puerile.

Some Buddhists may object to a book like this, believing that such a gentle and tolerant religion as Buddhism should refrain from criticizing other religions. This is certainly not what the Buddha himself taught. In the Mahaparinibbana Sutta he said that his disciples should be able to &quot;Teach the Dhamma, declare it, establish it, expound it, analyse it, make it clear, and be able by means of the Dhamma to refute false teachings that have arisen. &quot;Subjecting a point of view to careful scrutiny and criticism has an important part to play in helping to winnow truth from falsehood, so that we can be in a better position to choose between &quot;the two and sixty contending sects. &quot; Criticism of another religion only becomes inappropriate when it is based on a deliberate misrepresentation of that religion, or when it descends into an exercise in ridicule and name-calling. I hope I have avoided doing this.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of this book is threefold. Firstly it aims to critically examine Christianity and thereby highlight the logical, philosophical and ethical problems in Christian dogma. In doing this I hope to be able to provide Buddhists with facts which they can use when Christians attempt to evangelize them. This book should make such encounters more fair, and hopefully also make it more likely that Buddhists will remain Buddhists. As it is, many Buddhists know little of their own religion and nothing about Christianity &#8211; which makes it difficult for them to answer the questions Christians ask or to rebut the claims they make.</p>
<p>The second aim of this book is to help any Christians who might read it to understand why some people are not, and never will be, Christians. Hopefully, this understanding will help them to develop an acceptance of and thereby genuine friendship with Buddhists, rather than relating to them only as potential converts. In order to do this, I have raised as many difficult questions as possible and not a few home truths. If it appears sometimes that I have been hard on Christianity, I hope this will not be interpreted as being motivated by malice. I was a Christian for many years and I still retain a fond regard, and even admiration, for some aspects of Christianity. For me, Jesus&#8217; teachings were an important step in my becoming a Buddhist and I think I am a better Buddhist as a result. However when Christians claim, as many do with such insistence, that their religion alone is true, then they must be prepared to answer doubts which others might express about their religion.</p>
<p>The third aim of this book is to awaken in Buddhists a deeper appreciation for their own religion. In some Asian countries Buddhism is thought of an out-of-date superstition while Christianity is seen as a religion which has all the answers. As these countries become more Westernized, Christianity with its &#8220;modern&#8221; image begins to look increasingly attractive. I think this book will amply demonstrate that Buddhism is able to ask questions of Christianity which it has great difficulties in answering, and at the same time to offer explanations to life&#8217;s puzzles which make Christian explanations look rather puerile.</p>
<p>Some Buddhists may object to a book like this, believing that such a gentle and tolerant religion as Buddhism should refrain from criticizing other religions. This is certainly not what the Buddha himself taught. In the Mahaparinibbana Sutta he said that his disciples should be able to &#8220;Teach the Dhamma, declare it, establish it, expound it, analyse it, make it clear, and be able by means of the Dhamma to refute false teachings that have arisen. &#8220;Subjecting a point of view to careful scrutiny and criticism has an important part to play in helping to winnow truth from falsehood, so that we can be in a better position to choose between &#8220;the two and sixty contending sects. &#8221; Criticism of another religion only becomes inappropriate when it is based on a deliberate misrepresentation of that religion, or when it descends into an exercise in ridicule and name-calling. I hope I have avoided doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No the problem is aggressive Christian fundamentalism in a multi religious country like Sri Lanka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No the problem is aggressive Christian fundamentalism in a multi religious country like Sri Lanka.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How convenient - blame the Buddhists and praise the Christians. Really, you&#039;re full of it aren&#039;t you? Why don&#039;t you complain about those fanatical Christian priests out to convert non-Christians to their fanatical ideology? I guess none of them had anything to do with the breakdown of religious harmony in the country. Spreading bile about other religions and claiming that Christianity is the only way, and condemning others to an eternal hell fire is the &quot;peaceful&quot; Christian way I suppose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How convenient &#8211; blame the Buddhists and praise the Christians. Really, you&#8217;re full of it aren&#8217;t you? Why don&#8217;t you complain about those fanatical Christian priests out to convert non-Christians to their fanatical ideology? I guess none of them had anything to do with the breakdown of religious harmony in the country. Spreading bile about other religions and claiming that Christianity is the only way, and condemning others to an eternal hell fire is the &#8220;peaceful&#8221; Christian way I suppose?</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37104</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingbat, Buddhists were persecuted in Sri Lanka because of their RELIGION, by CHRISTIANS. So were MUSLIMS. So were HINDUS. Religion was the REASON why they were persecuted by Christians. They were forced to convert or they were offered jobs and an education if they would convert OUT OF THEIR RELIGION and into Christianity. Buddhists in Sri Lanka have accepted Christianity despite the fact that Christians were vicious persecutors when they were in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingbat, Buddhists were persecuted in Sri Lanka because of their RELIGION, by CHRISTIANS. So were MUSLIMS. So were HINDUS. Religion was the REASON why they were persecuted by Christians. They were forced to convert or they were offered jobs and an education if they would convert OUT OF THEIR RELIGION and into Christianity. Buddhists in Sri Lanka have accepted Christianity despite the fact that Christians were vicious persecutors when they were in power.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37103</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regions where missionary activity has been successful have seen their older traditions demoted or destroyed, whether it is those of the pagan Europeans, the Native Americans, or the pre-Islamic Arabs. Hinduism would likely fall along the same wayside should lose the battle against missionary religions, just as Hinduism in Islamic Pakistan has all but disappeared. 

Missionary activity and conversion, therefore, is not about freedom of religion. It is about the attempt of one religion to exterminate all others. Such an exclusive attitude cannot promote tolerance or understanding or resolve communal tensions. The missionary wants to put an end to pluralism, choice and freedom of religion. He wants one religion, his own, for everyone and will sacrifice his life to that cause. 

True freedom of religion should involve freedom from conversion. The missionary is like a salesman targeting people in their homes or like an invader seeking to conquer. Such disruptive activity is not a right and it cannot promote social harmony. In fact people should have the right not to be bothered by missionaries unless they seek them out. Those of us in the West are irritated by local missionaries like the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses that often come soliciting at our doors. Can one imagine the distress or confusion they could cause to some poor person in Asia? Once let into the door, it is hard to get them out. 

Religious freedom should not be a license for one country or one community to wage religious war against another. Even if this conversion battle is softened by charities it is still hostile in its intent and destructive in its action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regions where missionary activity has been successful have seen their older traditions demoted or destroyed, whether it is those of the pagan Europeans, the Native Americans, or the pre-Islamic Arabs. Hinduism would likely fall along the same wayside should lose the battle against missionary religions, just as Hinduism in Islamic Pakistan has all but disappeared. </p>
<p>Missionary activity and conversion, therefore, is not about freedom of religion. It is about the attempt of one religion to exterminate all others. Such an exclusive attitude cannot promote tolerance or understanding or resolve communal tensions. The missionary wants to put an end to pluralism, choice and freedom of religion. He wants one religion, his own, for everyone and will sacrifice his life to that cause. </p>
<p>True freedom of religion should involve freedom from conversion. The missionary is like a salesman targeting people in their homes or like an invader seeking to conquer. Such disruptive activity is not a right and it cannot promote social harmony. In fact people should have the right not to be bothered by missionaries unless they seek them out. Those of us in the West are irritated by local missionaries like the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses that often come soliciting at our doors. Can one imagine the distress or confusion they could cause to some poor person in Asia? Once let into the door, it is hard to get them out. </p>
<p>Religious freedom should not be a license for one country or one community to wage religious war against another. Even if this conversion battle is softened by charities it is still hostile in its intent and destructive in its action.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37102</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That certain individuals may influence other individuals to adapt one religious belief or another has seldom been a problem. There should be open and friendly discussion and debate about religion just as there is about science. But when one religion creates an agenda of conversion and mobilizes massive resources to that end, targeting unsuspecting, poor or disorganized groups, it is no longer a free discussion. It is an ideological assault. It is a form of religious violence and intolerance. 

Organized conversion efforts are quite another matter than the common dialogue and interchange between members of different religious communities in daily life, or even than organized discussions in forums or academic settings. Organized conversion activity is like a trained army invading a country from the outside. This missionary army often goes into communities where there is little organized resistance to it, or which may not even be aware of its power or its motives. It will even take advantage of communities that are tolerant and open minded about religion and use that to promote a missionary agenda that destroys this tolerance. 

Such organized conversion efforts often go by the name of evangelization. The Catholic Church uses this term for its long-standing conversion efforts. Fundamentalist Protestant Christians call their movement the evangelical movement. Evangelization sounds nicer and more ennobling than conversion. But let us be clear about the matter. The Evangelist aim is to convert the entire world to the Christian faith, which naturally implies the rejection of other religions. Such evangelical movements have world conversion strategies and programs to target India and Hindus state by state, tribe by tribe, even village by village. They keep track of the numbers of converts and mark them in the win column as gains for Christ. 

Organized conversion and evangelical efforts are not interested in dialogue or in learning from other religious groups. Such organizations have their mind made up that they are the true faith and they are unwilling to grant equality to any other belief. Real dialogue is only possible when there is equality and open mindedness. This cannot occur between a missionary faith and the faith that it is targeting, any more than it can happen between a hunter and his prey. If missionaries initiate dialogue it is either to promote conversion or to protect their converts. The missionary is not about to change his mind, believe that he might be wrong on something or accept any other point of view that might compromise his conversion agenda. 

The missionary business remains one of the largest in the world and has enormous funding on many levels. It is like several multinational corporations with the different Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical groups involved. There are full time staffs and organizations allocating money, creating media hype, plotting strategies and seeking new ways to promote conversion. The local native religion has about as much chance against such multinational incursions as a local food seller has if McDonald&#039;s moves into his neighborhood with a slick, well funded advertising campaign targeting his customers. Yet while many third world countries have government policies to protect local businesses, they usually don&#039;t have any safety mechanism to protect local religions. 

In fact missionary activity is like an ideological war. It is quite systematic, motivated and directed. It can even resemble a blitzkrieg using media, money, people and public shows to appeal to the masses in an emotional way. Therefore, with missionary activity we are not talking about unplanned, spontaneous or isolated events. We are talking about a religious effort towards world conquest that is quite happy to put an end to other religious-traditions that looks to establish one particular religion for all human beings, in which the diversity of human religions is discredited and forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That certain individuals may influence other individuals to adapt one religious belief or another has seldom been a problem. There should be open and friendly discussion and debate about religion just as there is about science. But when one religion creates an agenda of conversion and mobilizes massive resources to that end, targeting unsuspecting, poor or disorganized groups, it is no longer a free discussion. It is an ideological assault. It is a form of religious violence and intolerance. </p>
<p>Organized conversion efforts are quite another matter than the common dialogue and interchange between members of different religious communities in daily life, or even than organized discussions in forums or academic settings. Organized conversion activity is like a trained army invading a country from the outside. This missionary army often goes into communities where there is little organized resistance to it, or which may not even be aware of its power or its motives. It will even take advantage of communities that are tolerant and open minded about religion and use that to promote a missionary agenda that destroys this tolerance. </p>
<p>Such organized conversion efforts often go by the name of evangelization. The Catholic Church uses this term for its long-standing conversion efforts. Fundamentalist Protestant Christians call their movement the evangelical movement. Evangelization sounds nicer and more ennobling than conversion. But let us be clear about the matter. The Evangelist aim is to convert the entire world to the Christian faith, which naturally implies the rejection of other religions. Such evangelical movements have world conversion strategies and programs to target India and Hindus state by state, tribe by tribe, even village by village. They keep track of the numbers of converts and mark them in the win column as gains for Christ. </p>
<p>Organized conversion and evangelical efforts are not interested in dialogue or in learning from other religious groups. Such organizations have their mind made up that they are the true faith and they are unwilling to grant equality to any other belief. Real dialogue is only possible when there is equality and open mindedness. This cannot occur between a missionary faith and the faith that it is targeting, any more than it can happen between a hunter and his prey. If missionaries initiate dialogue it is either to promote conversion or to protect their converts. The missionary is not about to change his mind, believe that he might be wrong on something or accept any other point of view that might compromise his conversion agenda. </p>
<p>The missionary business remains one of the largest in the world and has enormous funding on many levels. It is like several multinational corporations with the different Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical groups involved. There are full time staffs and organizations allocating money, creating media hype, plotting strategies and seeking new ways to promote conversion. The local native religion has about as much chance against such multinational incursions as a local food seller has if McDonald&#8217;s moves into his neighborhood with a slick, well funded advertising campaign targeting his customers. Yet while many third world countries have government policies to protect local businesses, they usually don&#8217;t have any safety mechanism to protect local religions. </p>
<p>In fact missionary activity is like an ideological war. It is quite systematic, motivated and directed. It can even resemble a blitzkrieg using media, money, people and public shows to appeal to the masses in an emotional way. Therefore, with missionary activity we are not talking about unplanned, spontaneous or isolated events. We are talking about a religious effort towards world conquest that is quite happy to put an end to other religious-traditions that looks to establish one particular religion for all human beings, in which the diversity of human religions is discredited and forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37101</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIght I suggest you get out of your little cocoon and realize that Buddhists are either BURIED or CREMATED in Sri Lanka. The only moron here is you if you think Sri Lankan Buddhists only cremate and never bury. But then again, who can blame you for living your little Christian fundamentalist world, bagging out other religions like the Bible tells you to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIght I suggest you get out of your little cocoon and realize that Buddhists are either BURIED or CREMATED in Sri Lanka. The only moron here is you if you think Sri Lankan Buddhists only cremate and never bury. But then again, who can blame you for living your little Christian fundamentalist world, bagging out other religions like the Bible tells you to.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2006/12/the-monks-who-stole-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-37100</link>
		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This coming from a boy whose dad is a Christian priest and probably invovled in buying souls for his god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This coming from a boy whose dad is a Christian priest and probably invovled in buying souls for his god.</p>
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