Feminist theory (I can’t remember which branch of feminism) purports the notion that positive discrimination is necessary to bring women to a status quo in societies where male domination is institutionalized. That is to say that while we accept that men and women are equal, women need to be treated better because the existing institutional (legal, social and economical) inequalities need to be overcome so that they in effect are equal. The application of such a notion may in fact be a necessary evil for a society such as ours, at least at this stage of the evolution of gay rights (or lack of). But at what point do we stop?

Marriage is the simpler option because there is existing legal and social infrastructure to ‘process’ it. The simpler option is usually the best.

I certainly did not mean Gays are monkeys. Neither pretty ladies, British, Japanese or Indians in that manner. But everyone have their own unique identity. That doesn’t make any of them monkeys. All I’m saying is gays are loosing their identity in this process. Anyway it is not for me to decide – It is just how I feel.

Anyway my first comment is really a joke. But be serious now, ‘marriage’ is not relationship. Marriage has nothing to do with relationship. There is no such a thing call traditional marriage. Marriage is a legal contract between two people about their property and legal rights. Everything else – like relationship, moral or religion is just icing on the cake.

It is all about property, insurance, welfare and specially the inheritance law.
Usually in a gay person’s death, his/her first-family (parents/siblings) have right to his/her inheritance – but the partner may had spend a whole life with him, contribute to his wealth, have no rights.

There is two ways to solve this problem. Marriage has to give up its legal strings and stay purely in the religion area. OR open up legal benefits of the ‘marriage package’ to everyone.

The bottom line is this is not really about homosexuality or heterosexuality.
This recall powerful dialog form Angles in America.

Roy Cohn: AIDS. Homosexual. Gay. Lesbian. You think these are names that tell you who a person sleeps with, but they don’t tell you that.
Henry: No?
Roy Cohn: No. Like all labels they tell you one thing, and one thing only: Where does an individual so identified fit into the food chain, the pecking order? Not ideology or sexual taste, but something much simpler: clout. Not who I fuck or who fucks me, but who will come to the phone when I call, who owes me favors. This is what a label refers to. Now to someone who does not understand this, a homosexual is what I am because I have sex with men, but really this is wrong. A homosexual is somebody who, in 15 years of trying cannot get a pissant anit-discrimination bill through the city council. A homosexual is somebody who knows nobody and who nobody knows. Who has zero clout. Does this sound like me Henry?

I’m not opposed to gay rights or gay civil unions. But gay marriage is counter productive. It’s commonly acknowledged that gay relationships tend to be open and promiscuous on the whole. Straight people generally hold exclusive relationships in high esteem. You could argue that gay marriages would threaten the very basis of traditional marriages by questioning the rationale for exclusivity. The pessimists may say that it would be followed by legalisation and social acceptance of poligamy, pederasty and zoophilia in the coming few decades.

I think there should be 3 times of legally accepted relationships. Common law/de facto, registered civil unions and marriages between a man and woman. I also think the government should keep its hands out of unregistered de facto relationships.

thank you indi. you have spoken truly and well.

xxx

Gays used to be fabulous people. Wasn’t it nice to look at a well dress gay person having a tea Sunday morning holding the cup with two fingers, talking fabulously to his company with charming gestures?

Now they want to get married and be boring like rest of us? Have kids and go crazy whole day? I don’t know what is wrong with them that they want to be miserable like straight married people.

I think gays should not get married. They should continue to be fabulous.