World Peace Day

photo from the peace march last month


Was yesterday and the BBC was kind enough to run something I wrote for a blogger panel. Thanks to The Benevolent Dictator for recommending me. It was edited for space and I’ve included a different version here. The best metaphor I have to explain life in Sri Lanka is a country with a really terrible flu. We have this ethnic conflict which – like a virus – has its own logic and causes. However, all we see are the symptoms. When you have the flu you get a fever and the body produces snot and phlegm and all these nasty things to try and control the pathogens. In the same way, the ethnic conflict puts the country on high alert and all these security measures and murderous paramilitaries have sprung up to supposedly resolve things. Travel around Sri Lanka and you’ll see a country dangerously overheated – blowing its nose and coughing up blood.

There are checkpoints everywhere. I see at least ten men with guns every day. Gloved police stop traffic to let Ministers through and everybody gets all twitchy in case the buggers blow up. That’s nothing compared to life in the North and East. There people have been bombed out of their homes, denied water, had their children conscripted to fight, denied access to humanitarian aid, etcetera, ad nauseum. In Colombo stuff blows up, the phone lines get clogged, and someone cleans up the smoking mess. Life moves on. You’re honestly more likely to get killed in a mundane traffic accident than a terrorist attack. What sucks more is that war fever tramples on civil liberties and civility in general. I’ve had my car towed by the bomb squad and gotten vague death threats for what I thought were moderate blog posts. And those are just mild symptoms. People in the North and East are truly suffering and sometimes I can’t look at the news. What’s worst is that there’s no middle anymore. You can’t even talk about the ethnic conflict without being branded a LTTE sympathizer. I guess it’s the same on the other side, except they actually do kill dissenters. The whole country is like ‘Aaaah, I have snot coming out of my nose’ and trying to solve the problem with a sledgehammer.

World Peace Day, in that sense, just treats the symptoms. I mean, if we stop fighting for a day that’s not going to make the riots of 1983 or the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi go away. However, I think that day would have value. Under the Ceasefire Agreement the inflammation went down enough that we could talk about the ethnic conflict itself. Not that we really did. Personally, I didn’t talk about the ethnic conflict on my blog until stuff started blowing up. Colombo is a fun town and there’s other stuff I’m interested in. Peace kinda makes you complacent in a way, but it does lay the economic and social groundwork for a lasting solution.

However, even a day of peace seems far away right now. As far as I can tell violence breeds more violence, kills our moderate leaders and stifles debate. I don’t understand how that ever leads to peace, but I guess I don’t understand how a runny nose works either. I just hope it works out. Under the ceasefire I could imagine Sri Lanka in 20 years and it was a great place. So great, in fact, that I came back from studies abroad with a lot of hope. That hope is starting to congeal into heartbreak, but I still believe in this country. World Peace I don’t know about, but I think Sri Lanka can make it. There’s so much creativity and life here; you can almost feel a humid pulse when you get off the plane. I do believe that force is stronger that whatever is tearing us apart. It’ll take some time for the fever to break, but it will. I mean, it has to.

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102 Comments »

N
2006-09-22 10:40:47

nice so u thought the BBC might have an issue with the whole snot out of the nose analogy? nicely written..maybe see some discussion not including phallic references or death threats?

 
2006-09-22 13:43:48

interesting. i recieved a few ‘friendly’ calls my self. what were the nature of the threats? looks like someone higher up is monitoring these blogs.

2006-09-22 16:07:18

You mean like God? Or his moustachioed representative in paradise lost?

Death threats don’t necessarily mean that someone higher up is monitoring them, although I have seen comments on here by people identifying themselves as Milinda Moragoda and Sarath Fonseka’s son. Most likely, it’s some dude that knows Indi who disagrees passionately with his views – probably some chauvinist paranoid schizophrenic like that arse JustMal. I hope.

 
 
Sophist
2006-09-22 15:32:07

Let’s not lose sight of priorities here. That Samira chick from Chechnya is a BIRD!

N
2006-09-22 20:57:17

hmm…noticed that as well!

 
 
Hell's Dire Agent
2006-09-22 15:58:36

Sophist,

An impending marriage, thankfully, hasn’t dulled your finer appreciation of priorities in life ! BTW, are you going to have blogger pews set aside or what?

 
ado
2006-09-22 16:01:08

sophist getting married? budu ammo.

 
savi3
2006-09-23 16:03:53

nice one Indi :)

congratulations on the impending marriage Sophist.. must be a very understanding woman ur wife to be.. hehe..

 
stopdakilling
2006-09-24 17:31:51

did indi do the right thing with his bbc post – might have been better to take this opportunity to appeal to the world to intervene in Sri Lanka and stop the killing. then again his whole blog is about self-promotion.

musings about how difficult life is for the arrak boy whilst he feels persecuted and says nothing really.

there are other bloggers that should have been asked including some that even started peace blogs. still what to do in Sri Lanka it’s a dog eat dog world no?

why wasn’t nittewa asked? he’s a good guy and always tells the real story.

sophist is not getting married he’s getting hopeful – nobody would marry that short fat dumpling, truly what are u talking about?

2006-09-24 17:56:01

To answer your question, BBC asked me to write an article for the Peace Day and I recommended Indi instead as he blogs more regularly than I do and I felt that he would do more justice to the task. Look, you don’t have to actually be persecuted to feel it. Some of us here actually do care about whats happening to others and feel for them and write about it. Just because we live normal lives while doing so doesn’t make us hypocrites.

 
anon
2006-09-24 21:56:47

Nittewa? please.. the Morequendi (or whatever his/her name was) has disappeared. that’s like the one most inaccurate Blogs i’ve ever seen. i fondly remember trying to see what the people are saying on the 18th Nov 2005 and checking out Nittewa, the guy was going on about how ‘his sources’ were telling him that Ranil would win by some 100,000. lol. anyone who had a mice for a contact somewhere relevant would have known by that time Ranil was well an truly lost.

so not him, but others? who? i thought indi was a good choice.

 
T
2006-09-25 12:23:56

“Short, fat dumpling” are you for real?

He’s not short

Sophist
2006-09-25 14:43:40

And I am clearly not a ‘dumpling’.

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stopdakilling
2006-09-25 03:51:20

Sorry – i’m confused, I thought Nittewa was a reporter … what’s this to do with Morquendi? Is that an alias? As for Ranil – yep sure he lost because all people do in Sri Lanka is betray each other. Not just Tamil and Sihalese but Sinhalese and Sinhalese, brother and brother. IT’s disgusting.

When the JVP shit was happening, the level of betrayal was just evil. Still it happened then and it happens now. What is really scary is how much it happens within the same ethnic group. I don’t think that Sri Lanka can recover from this. We are an Island and there is no where to run to from what we do to each other. So … Stop da Killing.

Indi is not qualified to speak about anything or anyone. We’ve been watching him for a while at Barefoot. He jumps around from bandwagon to bandwagon all the time. He says he has Tamil friends but when we as expats have tried to include him in certain things he just shies away. I think the guy is ineffectual. He is however, what we would call a polite racist, he’s also a bit of a pushy opportunist.

There is a lot of talk about how he is a peacenik but like a lot of Sinhalese he is not really interested. He is as we say in German a Dumkopf. The rich in Sri Lanka especially the children of the rich who are Sinhalese are I agree with some of the posts not prepared to put there money where there mouth is and say just party.

Meanwhile the country is completely ruined. It is a joke to the international community and a, how do you say, pariah amongst all. The fact that on this blog indi.ca has never discussed with honesty about the killings commited by the Sri Lankan army is the one reason why the BBC should not have asked this playboy to make a comment for bloggers and for Sri Lankans

I will look up the Morquendi blog, maybe it sheds some light on the bitter comment about but yah as we say in German

2006-09-25 08:24:55

The BBC thing didn’t place me as a representative of Sri Lanka or Peaceniks. I don’t think I’m especially qualified to represent either. It’s simply a blogger panel, which is one voice from a particular country. All I’m offering there and here is my perspective and you can take it or leave it. Yes I do party and I’m not ashamed of it. I don’t get violent, I don’t fool around and I try to take care of the people around me. I earn the money I have and even though I look dormant I’ve produced a books worth of content, about 1500 photos and 5 magazines this year. I would rather be writing about technology or nightlife but the peace thing is something I feel obligated to talk about at this time.

I get shit for being too Tamil on one end and two Sinhala on the other, so comments like this make me think I’m in the right place. If you think I’m not then feel free to comment or start your own blog and we can discuss the issues publicly. Or feel free to attack me personally. Personal attacks, however, make you look less credible on the issues cause it comes across as petty and emotional and childishly boils a national issue down to the character of one very peripheral person. I’m no representative and I’m no saint. I’m just trying to write what I feel and back it up with as much research and exploration as I can. I don’t aspire to much more and I think I’m OK at achieving those limited objectives.

 
 
Naz
2006-09-25 10:51:17

well done, Indi. Can’t in any way find fault with the above.
please keep writing, your a breath of fresh air for most of us.

 
2006-09-25 13:55:10

Stopdakilling – if you have something worthwhile to say about any blogger’s opinions say it. That’s all it is, at the end of the day – an opinion from just one blogger. Attack the argument and not the man.

The Benevolent Dictator was right to nominate Indi to the BBC because his is the most popular blog in Sri Lanka and moreover Indi has done more to promote blogging in this country than anyone I am aware of. He has done this through the iTimes, which he is the editor of, the setting up of kottu.org which is mostly his baby, and by influencing and helping many bloggers to start their own blogs. One of these blogs is the excellent http://www.lankapapers.wordpress.com which discusses and summarises the daily newspapers – a dire need in Sri Lanka today, where each paper has it’s own biased stance.

If you have any objective arguments lets hear them, ja wohl?

 
2006-09-25 14:00:40

Also, Stopdakilling, you said:

“The fact that on this blog indi.ca has never discussed with honesty about the killings commited by the Sri Lankan army is the one reason why the BBC should not have asked this playboy to make a comment for bloggers and for Sri Lankans.”

True, Indi has not commented on the recent killings in Pottuvil yet. There may be more than one reason for this. Maybe he wants to see the SLMM report before deciding. Maybe, he’s just been too busy lately.

Either way, I have a post about it on my blog and Indi’s the reason I started bombing, so he is indirectly responsible for it.

 
2006-09-25 14:39:52

*blogging

 
Sophist
2006-09-25 14:55:42

A Freudian slip there, eh Ravana? Hee hee.

Hell’s Dire Agent – you can mind your own beeswax. For this public exposition you will not only be relegated to the blogger’s pew but it will also be placed in the deep recesses of the vestry where mice feed upon scavenged pieces of cassock while also giving Morq titbits of news upon Ranil’s impending electability.

Stopdakilling. Are you German, or are you an expatriate? How does being in a foreign country become any different from going out and having a drink in Sri Lanka? It is a form escapism, is alcohol. Some of us, Indi included – have a fair amount to escape from given that we live in a country with an economy spiralling rapidly downwards, are afraid for our lives from terrorists on one end and misguided vigilantes on another, are faced with the increasing yet necessary bother of checkpoints every 10 yards and are subject to the rule of people not qualified enough to hold a toddler’s hand while crossing the road.

Nevertheless, a party is a much less permanent form of escapism than migration. You will forgive us therefore, when we are skeptical of the overtures, and bombastic preachings of the expat community who accuse us of not doing our bit and attempt to force some sort of contrived guilt upon us for trying to make the best of a bad situation. We want to stop da killing too. But we’ll try and do it while also living in our homeland.

And next time you see me in the street say hello – I’ll show you short, fat and dumpling like I am you. Fucking Kraut.

sophist-for-jhu-president
2006-09-25 16:30:30

Sophist, you spent three paragraphs attacking someone who might have been doing exactly what you did last year. You refrained from all SL political commentary while you were in London, did you not? (oh wait, no you didn’t). Plenty of people move out of SL (albeit temporarily) because SL does not offer them what they need at this point in time. This is true of both educational and economic opportunity. Do you dare question their right to be skeptical of you because you happen to be in SL now? No, I am not that idiot stopdakilling by the way. Don’t know who the heck he is either. Actually, it might be Ashanthi for all I know or care.

You’d have more of a following if you didn’t pepper your (occasionally lucid and mostly well meaning) comments with obscenities and an apparent intolerance for dissenting opinion that makes the most hardcore JHU/JVP/LTTE whackjob look like a cowed schoolboy.

Foul mouthed ape :) Because threatening to beat up some random guy who apparently insulted you on the internet proves you are the better debator and on the side of the just… obviously.

Sophist
2006-09-25 16:57:57

I don’t think going abroad for a year allows you to be labelled an expat – which is the very label that Stopdakilling put voluntarily on himself. I don’t remember using phrases like “as we say in England’, because there was never any doubt about my coming back despite several more than gentle persuasions not to, given the worsening state of the country. I am fairly certain any discerning reader of this thread will be able to tell the difference between migration and temporary travel.

SL still doesn’t offer what I need. But I’m still here aren’t I…and doing as much as I possibly can while also trying to make ends meet. How does that give rise to the legitimacy of someone’s skepticism of me? Pray tell.

One single allegation of ‘fucking Kraut’ is hardly a expletive filled post. Re – read and you will find one – repeat ONE – expletive! I am impressed that you think ONE expletive will make the JHU look like ‘whackjob schoolboys’ because if that is the case, then I clearly must jump on the electoral bandwagon and hegin randomly swearing at the electorate.

Also my last sentence was in relation to a personal insult from someone I clearly don’t know – who also alluded to someone else who is not part of this conversation. I think I’m entitled to one expletive.

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2006-09-25 17:24:55

Ah, I apologize for not making myself clear – I did not refer merely to your treatment and badgering of this stopdakilling Auslander; but also a few others (Janapathi being chief among them, I think I remember at least one more person who got your “go fuck yourself” guide to rebutting an argument).

I’m getting into a slanging match when that’s not really my intention so let me make the point I originally intended.

Firstly, discerning readers of the thread may well need to be reminded of ancient history… I’d argue that there was doubt about you “coming back” before I expressed it here and now :) Secondly, my point is that being in country, being in Canada for a few years or any other circumstance is your excuse to say that someone’s opinion is inferior. I’m not going to dig up more patronizing comments you’ve made to this effect on this very blog, that’s left as an exercise to those discerning readers to whom you appeal. You do this all the time (I can think of three examples off the top of my head). Someone is not in SL now, thus they are (in Sophist’s worldview) not entitled to their opinion, please stay gagged until such time that us locals have had our say :) Not so?

About the insult, fair enough. Did you really need to follow up your insult with a threat of physical harm, though? Are you a thug? Or do you just like to play one to impress giggling teenagers who think threatening to beat up someone is cool? Not the first time your contribution to a comment thread has been measured in “fuck yourself” and “I’m gonna beat you up”, is it?

That’s my point, if you care to see it.

2006-09-25 22:01:18

Personally, I often find Sophist’s comments amusing, although it is a shame that he scared Janapathi away. This time though that bugger did call him a dumpling.

 
 
 
 
 
Andre
2006-09-25 16:50:54

*chants* fight! fight! fight!

 
Sophist
2006-09-25 23:54:16

Actually, I find a sense of humour endearing in a person. Having spent most of my life among those who take themselves far too seriously, it is refreshing to be able to communicate – sometimes with total strangers – without the formality and stricture of the social and/or corporate world.

However, since my personality is on trial here I feel obliged to clarify some matters. There was NEVER any doubt that I would return from England. Who ever told you there was some was clearly misinformed. Correct him/her.

My response (it was one comment, consisting two relevant paras, hardly ‘ill treatment’ or badgering) to Stopdakilling was based on his approach to Indi’s post and other comments and not merely his status as an ‘expat’. While expat views are indeed extremely valid, it is upto those who are exposed to them whether to value their credibility. We will politely agree to disagree on that point. While the opinions of those who live abroad are to me akin to a scientist remotely analysing test results far removed from a laboratory, thereby giving rise to much accuracty and misconception – you choose to accept them. To each his own.

Yes – sometimes I can be patronising, and sometimes I can be condescending. It is a character flaw for which I apologise. I have a low threshold for unintelligent argument. For this too I apologise. Profusely.

Yes I have told Janapathi to ‘go fuck himself’. And on some occassions Ashanthi also. But if you care to analyse my history on this site (which you clearly do) no attack has been unprovoked. I was called a ‘dumpling’. Indi will be the first to tell you that my threats of physical harm are about as real as Janapathi’s insistence that he is not a racist. I have still to take Muba’s bat to Indi’s head. If you knew me at all – except aside from some inaccurate third party information – you would know that I jest. I certainly will not stop that to appease you.

Lastly, I thank you for your obvious interest in me and my activities. Perhaps you could ghost write my biograhpy, as you so obviously know more about me than myself.

2006-09-26 00:06:26

Hee hee hee

 
sophists-ghostwriter
2006-09-26 14:07:49

Sophist, once you get off that high horse on being questioned on your approach (or you can stay mounted on it, your choice) you may find the following observation to be true.

one example here – I’d love to hear how you specifically were provoked or insulted in any shape or form by Janapathi in that instance. You asked, therefore I just googled. In the most recent case, I did concede that you were called a dumpling first – at which point you not only insulted the guy in return (deserved, I’m sure) but also threatened the chap with physical violence into the bargain.

What Indi tells me or does not tell me is irrelevant. Knowing you or not knowing you at all is irrelevant. What, you want people in real life to vouch for your online character now? I make my observation based on your commentary online, Sophist. You make the same judgement about so many (and admit as much). Do the same rules not apply to you? For all I know, Janapathi might be Dr. Ariyaratne of Sarvodaya. That’s as irrelevant here as is your entreaty to indi to vouch for your embrace of non violence.

No need to thank me, really. Google makes it all easy. You’re low hanging fruit when I want to tweak someone’s nose :) Also, when did I ever claim that I knew you better than you know yourself? You called Janapathi a racist based on his online commentary, I returned the favor for amusement’s sake. It’s been fun, Sophist.

Of course writing your biography might not be as difficult as you fondly imagine. One entire chapter could be devoted to “people I asked to go fuck themselves”. That could be a thickish chapter (note: I made no commentary on you being thick or otherwise, lest you misunderstand as you so often seem to). I don’t analyse your behaviour on this or any other site, but all too often you tend to barge in and reduce the signal to noise ratio. Consider this my effort to point it out. Sort of like picking up litter because I need the exercise or something. Like I said, it’s been fun and I’d hope I’ve made my point. Repeatedly. Because Janapathi is clearly not the only person who refuses to take a hint.

:)

Sophist
2006-09-26 15:12:43

Of course….your point has been made in stellar fashion my friend. I thank you once again for holding me in such esteem as to remember comments I have made since the dawn of time and attribute to them the context you so wish. Well done – and I wish you well.

Coincidentally, I perform much the same task as you procralim to be performing in this instance vis-a-vis pikcing up litter. I am the dung beetle. It is my bounden duty therefore to collect the excrement and store it away tidily. The less excrememtnt the better I have done my self-appointed job.

Janapathi did provoke me by his unmitigated assault on the collective intelligence of some members of this community, and a more specific threat via the conception that all Sinhalese may in fact be like Janapathi. Unlike the LTTE who claim to be the sole voice of the Tamils, I did not want Janapathi to have even a semblance of being the representative voice of the Sinhalsee.

Occassionally a good old ‘go fuck yourself’ is necessary. I choose to say it at the risk of unpopularity. It is my choice and thus I must deal with your critique. It is interesting however, that you choose to single me out as the sole person to decry Stopdakillings approach. It is more interesting how quickly focus shifted from his ‘expat’ status to my personal failings. I believe that subject has already been done to death on this very blog.

Google can sometimes be strangely misleading. The chapter may not be as thick as you would like to imagine.

NB – Smiley faces rarely hide bitterness and resentment.

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sophists-ghostwriter
2006-09-26 16:16:15

Sophist, by your own words (which I chose to accept at face value, something that you clearly cannot do), we agreed to disagree on our mindset about the value of “expat” musings on what you consider to be wholly a local problem. That’s your opinion, it obviously differs from mine in that I perceive the value of a fresh perspective regardless of nationality, place of residence or other limiting attributes. That’s why I didn’t waste any bandwidth revisiting the issue.

I chose to single you out in this instance because three people replied to SdK. There was a difference between Indi’s, Ravana’s and your attempt to answer. In Ravana’s words (not mine), “attack the argument, not the man”. Your rebuttal consisted of an ad hominem pooh poohing of his criticism by saying he’s from Germany or whatever. Three paragraphs of casting aspersions on SdK’s place of residence did nothing to enhance your own view (my original point, repeated ad nauseum).

It is of course your prerogative to assign whatever hidden agenda and motive to my comments as you so wish. I can only assure you that there is no reason for bitterness, rancour or resentment on my part. If such was revealed to you in my commentary, perhaps you may well need to reexamine why such a siege mentality is required on your part. I’ve provided context to my observations wherever possible to distance these comments (whimsical, I agree but with a serious point underpinning it) from the anti-sophist leaning that you choose to spin. You, on the other hand, have replied with .. what, exactly? Google can be misleading? How so? I could assert that Ravana is actually V. Prabha in disguise. Both statements are equally believable :) You’ve shifted your position from replying to a personal insult to “he insulted the collective intelligence of the community and thus deserved what he got” in the case of Janapathi.

Having said that, I apologize once again but merely for overestimating your ability to appreciate how your oft times lucid, well meaning (and sometimes insightful) comments are blighted by your predisposition to … as you say … play the dung beetle.

2006-09-26 16:42:57

Simon?

 
 
savi3
2006-09-26 16:37:50

very entertaining.. ..

sophist: did u mean expat opinions on SL politics or just expat opinions in general? just curious..

 
Andre
2006-09-26 16:44:26

And the blogfest is on.

 
Sophist
2006-09-26 21:21:28

Savi3 I mean that expat opinions on problems as they perceive them are not as immediately credible as they may think they are. I do concede that there are indeed very insightful opinions expressed by expats. However, I happen to think that SDK was not one of them. If Ghostwriter disagrees with me so be it. It is a matter of perception. I attacked the man’s argument based on his location on the same – not his geographic location by default. There is a subtle, yet fundamental difference which Ghostwriter fails to appreciate.

I would perhaps, Ghostwriter – taken your comments in better spirit had your pseudonym been less mala fide in both instances where you used them. They seemed, even before the comments were analysed, of a personal nature. Hence, my somewhat defensive reaction to the same. I do not have the patience and self sacrificing nature of Job.

You may remember, if your googling serves it up, that I vehemently opposed a call to ban Janapathi, despite how tasteless he made himself to me, and some others. His comments were as valuable as Anarkali fans…for the same reason. It is hardly fair, I think, to say that my response to SdK is something via which you can assume the ad hominem, shoot from the hip dismissiveness that you seem to attribute to me without – I feel – just cause. If SdK hadn’t been dismissive of Indi, and of a blog which has made a name for itself, I perhaps would not have been even as dismissive as I was. I maintain, and I will do maintain to my dying day (which might be sooner rather than later given the amount of people who are keeping tabs), that no attack, personal or otherwise is unprovoked. And I have this thing of standing up for my mates. It’s a huge problem.

You accused me of being rude to Janapathi. If you Google industriously you will perhaps understand why.

I think I must once again extend an apology for for having character flaws. It is a failing I cannot deny. I am flattered that you find my comments lucid, sometimes insightful, and well meaning. I also accept that my theory that the population should be culled using an IQ yardstick also will not sit easy with many. It is the sort of thing I say. If it gets to the point of being overly objectionable I am sure Indi will ban me. However, until then you – and others like you – will probably have to suffer the indignities of my character.

I apologise once again that I did not make enough allowance for points to be missed and arguments distorted. Your inability to comprehend is well masked by your pedantry.

2006-09-27 00:42:24

Thank god for that. I was worried there for a minute that this bugger with the Pulitzer Prize-winning style was getting to you. Personally, In find Sophist’s comments on this blog refreshing, especially in the midst of heavy discussion. He not only grapples well with the issues at hand, but also adds humour, without which some of the discussions may seem as dry as nun’s c***.

 
 
Andre
2006-09-27 14:30:43

I wonder, does anyone ever really win a blog arguement? The discussion would sway back and forth, especially if both are good writers, with each accusing the other of lack of comprehension, or lack of something ad infinitum (or nauseaum, depends on how you look at it). It seems quite easy to pick something inappropriate out of anyone’s comments, and go over and over and over it. Overkill?
Or if you are not a good writer, then attack personally or display such a persistance so as to bore everyone.

Anyway, just a thought.

 
Sophist
2006-09-27 15:59:20

Point taken mate.

 
2006-09-27 19:08:00

Oh … this just gets better and better – I think it all comes down to who Sophist really is. I think his ghost-writer should be given a new life!

Also, I was thinking that if one spells sophist backwards – one ends up with Tsihpos. Which… well …. it means bugger all really now doesn’t it.

There’s been a few far flung interesting comments and ole skinny legs indi himself having to respond to a few questions about the correctness of him being quoted by the BBC.

Well – at the end of the day – how is it possible that some schumck called indi, who I, along with my dear friend Morquendi (not Nittewa you goose a few comments before) have made famous … how is it that indi … should be the blogger of importance to make comments on all of our behalfs on the matter of PEACE!

So our dear schmindi says – I didn’t ask to be self important, the Benvelont Dictator told me too. CRAP indi – you bloody love it. You swim in it. You absolutely thrive in it. I know now why people hound you about being a peacenik. You give peace a bad name.

Meanwhile around you people die and you get to “comment”on the BBC whilst not lifting one little finger to help anyone but yourself.

 
2006-09-27 20:27:13

As per Sophist, his online persona can be, shall we say, challenging. At one point I couldn’t stand him, but we met and I consider him a friend. I don’t really agree with using someone’s expattiness against them, mainly because outside opinions are valuable. I don’t think having your feet here necessarily makes your head more clear. Regardless, he’s not a bad bugger. Tone doesn’t translate well online, but if you met him in person you might see a different side. Or not.

Sophist-For-JHU is at least well-reasoned and polite, and it’s cool you kept the discussion that way. Sophist may have ‘character flaws’ as he say, but in the end that is character. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticize him, in fact I’m kinda glad someone called him on the expat point. However, there are literally less than 10 people who I take personal advice from and they don’t comment much. Which is to say, don’t take it personally.

Online personas are characters and sometimes you just need to take them as that. We have, for example, my resident frustrated stalker Ashanthi, noxious racists, and people asking if I can sell them a fucking laptop. It’s annoying on a human level, but as part of a drama it’s kinda fun.

 
Sophist
2006-09-28 09:20:58

Ghostwriter…I must graciously concede defeat. My girlfriend agrees with you – in principle.

As Indi says it IS my character and as such, isn’t overly appealing to some, just as I’m sure your character may not be appealing to others. I appreciate though, that you kept this critique civilised. And I shall attempt to quell my urge to play the dung beetle with such zealous regularity – you are right in that it would add value.

However, you will also appreciate the difficulty in adopting such restraint in the face of comments like Ashanthi’s.

sophists-ghostwriter(contract pending)
2006-09-28 16:48:54

I wasn’t going to comment on this topic further – I had already said as much as I thought I needed to without outing myself as a persistent, jobless bore who hounds people via comments on blogs. I happen to share Andre’s view on arguing on the internet :) But in this case … :)

Sophist, I had an observation to make about your commentary and I made it. That’s the beginning and end of the story as far as I am concerned. It wasn’t a contest and defeat or victory isn’t an appropriate outcome in my view although I appreciate your gesture. Note that I made my comments to you, not to many others who’ve resorted to ad hominem attacks. I too do not possess the patience of Job and try not to waste my bandwidth with people whom I’m confident will not care to listen. I suspected you weren’t one of those :) I made no judgements on your character that I am aware (although I’m sure things could have been misinterpreted) but merely one unsightly tendency.

If someone finds my own character unappealing, they’d need to go to the tail of what will probably be a very long list. I have all too many character flaws, some obvious here and many which aren’t. I’m not disputing this for an instant. My argument was, and will remain, that of the need for proportionate responses – especially from those that I think aren’t blinded by ideology. If someone told me to go fuck myself, I’d probably reply in kind. Or maybe not – I don’t have enough invested in an argument on the internet to get worked up about it.

I try to refrain from imposing my personal value system on others where possible, but I find myself agreeing with your commentary more often than not – hence the longwinded comments about what I saw as ad hominem attacks. That’s all it was.

By the way, is that job as a ghostwriter still open? :) I’m just asking (hence my third attempt at a psuedonym)

Sophist
2006-09-29 13:24:22

After having had time to digest your observation, and having discussed my ‘unsightly tendency’ with those who knew my offline character, I found that it was indeed a very pertinent and relevant observation. Your style however, while being imminently readable and of a quality rarely seen in the SL blogosphere, is also a tad intimidating – hence the somewhat uncalled for (ind hindsight) aggression of my earlier responses.

I am flattered by your faith in my willingness to listen – mainly because my online persona must have communicated it. I do not mean ‘victory’ or ‘defeat’ in their traditional sense. That would defeat the purpose. But I do mean that you have successfully made me see a further step in the struggle for betterment of self. For that I thank you. And also feel that your ability to make people stop and listen should mean that it is almost your civic duty :) to engage more extensively in the discourse.

Janapathi’s and Ashanthi’s mind numbing obstinacy is, to me, akin to being asked to ‘go fuck myself’. Hence my similar reaction. I will try, even thought, I haev already failed (see below) to be more mature in the face of adversity. Contrary to what you may think, I have enjoyed this. Gracias.

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Janus
2006-09-28 10:15:51

I think some kudos is in order, even for merely conceding defeat. Alot of bloggers would have just gone on arguing, but you show willingness to look at yourself from outside yourself.
*applause*

2006-09-28 17:16:53

Verily. What drives me the most crazy is that some people never even consider changing and it makes debate almost pointless. They might as well distribute a pamphlet. In that sense Sophist is an appealing character. Perhaps that’s why he gets so frustrated with commentors that don’t even try to read or listen.

 
 
2006-09-28 14:43:11

We have, for example, my resident frustrated stalker Ashanthi, noxious racists, and people asking if I can sell them a fucking laptop. It’s annoying on a human level, but as part of a drama it’s kinda fun.

Oh Indi – yes that’s right – I’m the noxious racist. So I love Morq (he’s Sinhalese) but I hate you (you’re Sinhalese) and that makes me a “noxious racist”. You are truly an indiot.

I think you should have substituted noxious racist and stalker with “those that give me creedence”. You are an immature prat who thinks that attending a conference in the Philiphines via Nokia in Sri Lanka means that you and I won’t meet across a networking lunch one day, aren’t you? The world is a very small place.

I don’t think anyone really takes Sophist seriously – I think the centre of a blog is the owner of a blog. In this case that is you and how you handle yourself. Calling me a noxious racist has told me more about how small you really are.

Have fun in Manila – my Nokia is already texting ….

Sophist
2006-09-28 16:03:20

Ghostwriter – watch this…:)

Ashanthi, I believe that you misunderstand Indi’s post and have chosen to attribute to yourself a hat which was never initially meant for you. Indi said “We have, for example, my resident frustrated stalker Ashanthi, noxious racists, and people asking if I can sell them a fucking laptop.”

A simple grammatical reading of the sentence in question shows that Indi has differentiated the various genres of people on his blog (albeit at random), and seperated the said genres by using a comma. A closer inspection wil reveal that he refers to you, and subsequently to ‘noxious racists’ in the plural. It is clear therefore that this was a reference to a completely different genre of person to whom he has gone to the extent of differentiating you from. If, as you fear, the reference was to you the sentence would probably have read “…frustrated stalker Ashanthi, the noxious racist,…”. However, the grammatical construction of this sentence precludes such an inference.

Your violent reaction therefore, is somewhat misplaced. Or not.

 
2006-09-28 17:10:19

Yeah, I was wondering. Comma. All the kids are using it.

 
 
2006-09-28 14:52:52

PS – I cannot help wanting the person that represented Sri Lankan bloggers and those of us from other countries that give a damn about Sri Lanka to be Morquendi and not Indi. I’m sorry that’s just how I feel.

So – indiot is now trying to turn this into a Tamil vs Sinhalese racist thing.

I suggest we all go and read his bullshit comments to the BBC right now and I think you’ll see why I would like a blogger with a brain and a balance of opinion to make comments. Not someone who thinks that anyone who draws attention to his skinny hairy legs is a racist.

It is on the basis of these petty hateful feelings between neighbours that the pogroms and racism against Tamils has been perpetrated for decades in Sri Lanka. On this petty jealousies neighbour turned against neighbour and justified their actions.

The blogsphere in Sri Lanka has lost a great blogger in Morquendi. You all know it and I’m not going to stop saying it.

T
2006-09-28 16:48:06

Talk about going on a tangent… Ashanthi you are by far the most immature, obnoxious blogger out there, your posts have gone from being sincere yet misinformed to peurile babbling and finally desceded to the farcical… there’s more hot air in your posts than the good year blimp child.

Once again you have demonstrated your ability to misread and misinterpret a straightforward post and rush into a long winded, self righteous diatribe against someone, whether it be Indi or Sophist, and be blatantly caught out. It truly was laugh out loud funny the way you jumped headlong into an attack on Indi, wrongly assuming he had called you a “noxious racist” and going as far as actually copy pasting the quote itself not realising that a simple comma seperated the genres – thus making your attack look utterly redundant… you could say that you were the “indiot”. Had you re-read the quote you could have spared yourself the embarrasment of Sophist pointing out your own stupidity. Can you honestly expect anyone to take you seriously anymore?… no seriously think about it.

“So – indiot is now trying to turn this into a Tamil vs Sinhalese racist thing” Yes that’s exactly what Indi meant by writing about his experience at Nokia’s conference promoting their NSeries Convergence phones… how very cunning of him.

Seriously though, you confess to hating Indi and then lecture him on his attitude being “the basis of these petty hateful feelings between neighbours that the pogroms and racism against Tamils has been perpetrated for decades in Sri Lanka”. You know I have never, even once, seen or heard Indi say anything remotely racist whether intentional or otherwise, yet it is you Ashanthi who immediately draws attention to Indi’s race and the first to point to his ethnicity and to me their in lies the paradox… the fact is Ashanthi, and you may not even realize this, that it is you who maybe the bigot. Either that or Sophist is right and really want to fuck the schmuck.

 
 
David Blacker
2006-09-28 16:09:42

He died or what?

 
2006-09-28 17:52:27

Oh be quiet T – sorry I couldn’t really be bothered reading your rant. Pot calling kettle black don’t you think!

I’ll say what I bloody well want to about pograms too .

Sophist I apologise – I suppose you want a pat on the back for taking the time to correct me but to be honest the size of the font on this blog or my ltop is really really small. I’m not sure what the word “wil” is – but hey, I’ll make an assumption, shall I :-)

I stand corrected and was very upset thinking that I had been called a noxious racist. The contrast I draw between love and hate though a bit extreme but you all know Morq is someone very special to me – always will be.

I miss Morq and yes I guess it shows. I think if there is ever to be peace in Sri Lanka we will need people like Morq and not like indi – like it or not, so do a lot of people.

 
T
2006-09-28 18:40:03

It’s not a rant when you’re pointing out the obvious Ashanthi… and it’s ‘pogrom’ by the way

Plus not reading stuff is what makes your posts drivel in the first place.

It’s tough pill to swallow but it’s the truth, face it Ashanthi Morquendi is just a blogger, he may be the son of god to you, but he’s no more or no less effective than indi at initiating a dialogue… which is the first step in creating a wider understanding. If you don’t like Indi why do you keep coming here?… Sophist doesn’t shit on Janapathi’s blog and we all know his stance on that bugger. At least Janapathi was entertaining in that village idiot sort of way.

 
2006-09-28 21:06:05

There you go again T – anyone would think that janashcpanthi was the only blogger who ever walk the face of the blog…

Don’t continue to ruin your blog cred by being an indi-crawler running down Morq and praising indi – apart from the fact that it’s been done before it’s tedious and boring.

Morq’s not the son of God to me – but he is a blogger with a lot more purpose and soul than you have the capacity to understand. Like it or not indi cannot nor will he ever be as well rounded a personality. This was reflected in his posts and desire to present alternative views – to which the likes of you responded with biggotry and vile.

The rest as they say is history … no need to labour this point – move on …

 
2006-09-28 21:24:34

do you ever feel like you’re talking to yourself? Just switch the proper nouns and you get

Don’t continue to ruin your blog cred by being an indi-crawler running down indi and praising Morq – apart from the fact that it’s been done before it’s tedious and boring.

You don’t contribute anything to the debate Ashanthi, your only issue is that you don’t like me and like Morquendi. It’s tedious and boring. I’m not going to ban you, but it’s a purely masturbatory activity you’re undertaking. I don’t usually respond to your posts cause it’s a personal opinion and nothing more profound. It’s like saying that you don’t like broccoli. OK. There’s nothing to argue about there. You don’t like me. Whatever. No one else cares and it has nothing to do with the issues at hand.

You don’t read anything fully, can’t perceive commas and call people racist cause you can’t be bothered to think about anything complex. You don’t contribute. I hope it’s at least fun mumbling to yourself in the corner. Why don’t you respond about how much I suck and how you love Morquendi, that’d be original.

 
2006-09-29 00:07:20

Ah well – I suppose this is a moment in the history of the continuing story of the blogger named indi who …. by the way – i ‘d leave mastrubation out of it if I were you … from what I’ve heard – you know how it goes, bottle of arrak, long mirror on the wall – indi on his own… a few mins past m’night…. hmmm…. yes, the walls do have ears…

Look – I’ll apologise again, I didn’t see the comma – but that’s this bloody blog, the font size is really small.

I don’t care if I don’t contribute – I’m here to observe.

Please don’t start responding to my posts – let’s not get up close and personal, please!!!

I don’t know you to like you.Grow up and don’t flatter yourself.

I do know Morq and yes I love him like I love anyone who rises above the crap that surrounds them and achieves something for humanity. You are not in the same league as him and you never will be. Ban me if it makes you feel better but gee stop having a tantrum because you aren’t top dog.

If not for you sabotaging Morq at every turn he’d still be out here in the blogsphere… don’t expect me to be give you a pat on the back for trying to put yourself up there and represent us with the BBC. I repeatedly asked you to work with him, I repeatedly asked you to contribute to the peace-blog and you did not.

If you want an accolade go get it at around … hmmm let me see 3 in the morning at some “haunt” of yours, I believe …

Finally – this looks like it has ended in being a conversation between a two people eh indi? All your little minions (employees) don’t really enter into this conversation do they.

Ultimately you are a disappointment to me – that’s all.

FontSize
2006-09-29 05:44:22

Ashanti, if the font is too small, ,if your using IE, go to View – Text-size and click larger or largest.
If your using Firefox – Click Ctrl, hold it and Click +

 
 
2006-09-29 00:14:38

And whilst I’m at it – you’re a disappointment not because of your fair skin, chisled nose, perfect vision and “tamil” features (lol) –

but … because you are a stupid prat who has all the opportunity to become someone & somebody that can help Sri Lanka but you never will and you are determined to shoot down anyone that could.

You go take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror and then ban me!

 
T
2006-09-29 07:44:36

Jeez Ashanthi you’ve a got a serious case of sand in the vagina?

You’re a joke…

 
Sophist
2006-09-29 10:08:19

Ghostwriter…even you will forgive this one :)

Ashanthi the problem with hanging upside down and having Morq’s cock in your mouth, is that it makes you talk gibberish incoherently, and you also can’t see any further than his balls (hairy or otherwise).

Aside from Padashow which was a hit, if somewhat distasteful, can you present to us an exhaustive list of Morq’s efforts to improve humankind and their results. If that list is as awesome as you say it is, I’m sure many peoople will be scrapping beneath you for a drop of Morquendian semen dripping from the sides of your mouth.

2006-09-29 10:16:37

for the love of God man, my mother reads this

 
 
Janus
2006-09-29 10:30:03

lol..

 
2006-09-29 19:01:06

Indi – your mother reads this – and I ‘ve meet her, yep true, she does…

Thing is do you care.. not that i’ve noticed.

You’re mother is special but all our mothers are.

As a blogger you’re one in a million – so think you idiot, you are one of a million who has a mother who reads his blog.

Be responsible for what you are and whilst your country disintigrates into compelete chaos can you please stop talking about yourself …

 
2006-09-29 19:09:07

Sorry for the Pssss..esss but can only handle one insult at a time these days…

Look – I refuse to believe the real Sophist (please, stand up, please, stand up) … wrote that comment.

Hmmm … yes well mainly because of the language used and also ,.. the sexual references made.

I care very deeply about Morq. I am not Buddhist but I have to say that my relationship with Morq is.

I miss him on the blog and I want him back.

That’s pretty simple.

He gave S/l blogs a lot of balance.

If you want to crap on and be rude – by all means, this aint my blog. Indi will never threaten to ban anyone who insults me or Morq as “Sophist” just has… but thats indi for you…

 
2006-09-30 13:03:21

I am reproducing this comment from above because I think it’s relevant at this point, and it can safely be assumed that Ashanthi has not read it yet.

“The Benevolent Dictator was right to nominate Indi to the BBC because his is the most popular blog in Sri Lanka today, and he has done more to promote blogging in this country than anyone I am aware of. He has done this through the iTimes, which he is the editor of, the setting up of kottu.org which is mostly his baby, and by influencing and helping many bloggers to start their own blogs. One of these blogs is the excellent http://www.lankapapers.wordpress.com which discusses and summarises the daily newspapers – a dire need in Sri Lanka today, where each paper has it’s own biased stance.”

Also, indi.ca comes up on google on lots of searches about Sri Lanka more than any other blog. Indi’s is also constantly looking for ways in which the mainstream media can be linked to the blogs, so that the moderate voice can be heard louder. (Yes, I know there’s a spectrum of views represented on the blogs, but it is a survival of the most rational and the moderate voice is emerges louder, or at least more convincing. I hope.)

Ashanthi – If you’ve got any objective reasons why anybody else was more deserving, lets hear ‘em. I mean, I know the real-life Morq, and he’s a nice guy, but I can’t remember whether I’ve even been to his blog. It’s just not visible enough.

 
2006-10-01 08:04:58

Thanks for the polite response Ravana. I’ll address a few points.

You’ve reprinted that paragraph up there because you made the assumption that I had not read it. I had read it and I disagree with it. So you’re assumption was wrong.

When Morquendi’s blog as Morquendi was active, it was widely read. Nittewa was also widely read. Not sure which jolly planet you’re living on but you’re obviously not on the same one as Morq!!! So that puts a hole in you’re “Ican’t remember whether I’ve even been to his blog …” statement.

Who’s being vague now and you, unlike me don’t have the excuse of being some dimwit stalking female!

Having said that, you also say you know the real-life Morq and that he’s a nice guy? Well I think Morq would be very upset to hear you call him “nice” and for those of us who obviously know him better than you – nice is not a word I’d use for Morq :-). But hey – that’s a whole other post and certainly not on this blog.

Morq’s blog is not visible to you because like my blog it is abandoned. Or maybe it’s because it got removed from Kottu :-) … banned I believe is the petty childish word that was used.

I have protested quite strongly about indi jumping in there to represent S/l bloggers – I think he knows exactly why. At the risk of sounding like s/nut, Morq and a few others (noxious racists included) the fact is that inid has never been to Jaffna, Trinco or Batti. He has no idea what’s really happening to people in refugee camps, army camps or tiger camps.

Ravanna – nor do you.

However, there are other jounrnalists that do. When you have the inclination machan … make the effort and see if you can find out.

When the Tsunami hit Ceylon I grieved. I was horrified. I was so angry with myself for abandoning my country, but let’s face it my country abandoned me.

When I read some of the bullshit on this blog, my blog and Morqs’ blogs – I’m not surprised that all people want out of Sri Lanka is a news story, a cheap holiday and maybe a bit of underaged sex.

If indi is a future leader of this country and there is every chance he will be (given his socio-economic status around Barefoot and Colombo 7) that’s fine. From most Tamils’ point of view he probably is the best they can hope for as a moderate!

However, he’s just never going to be my first choice. If we talk about peace, we need to realise it will only come from the next generation. If peace is in the hands of indi, his arrak bottle, his ego and curlishness – God help Sri Lanka.

David Blacker
2006-10-01 15:30:52

The tsunami actually hit Sri Lanka, not Ceylon.

You get to be a national leader by hanging around Barefoot? Better tell all the buggers at the Horse to move over then.

 
 
2006-10-01 12:11:15

Ashanthi,

There are only two objective points on the issue at hand in your last comment, and I will attempt to deal with them here.

1. Your statement that Indi has never been to Batti, Trinco or Jaffna is both false and irrelevant. There are many bloggers who have never been to Iraq, but they are justified if they hold an opinion on the war there and want to blog about it. Sometimes, distance can give you clarity albeit at the expense of details. In practice, I know that Indi has been to the East. Far more importantly, he has good contacts who do know the North and East intimately who he gets information from. The spokesperson for the TRO is one such person that comes to mind.

2. Morquendi’s blog had not been updated since September 2005 which is why it was removed from kottu. Morquendi instead started Nittewa, which IS on kottu. There was no malicious intent in removing it from kottu. Suggest you research your allegations before making them.

 
2006-10-01 13:32:14

Regarding Ravana’s comments, I’ve been to the East when it was under curfew. We went to a wedding with the late Minister Ashraff, whose convoy was able to break the curfew, and my dad was simply determined to see the place otherwise. It’s beautiful. I went to Trinco when my Uncle was in the navy to see his gunboat and they took us on a tour of the bay. I don’t think either of these things are necessary anyways because I don’t blog as a North Easterner and I make no pretences on that point. I just write my perspective, whatever that is, and I find that’s hard enough. I have tried to support any Northeastern writers I can, like Sarvi, and I try to read what he writes. I also don’t think you need to be somewhere to speak about it. For one thing, the places are full of people who don’t know what’s going on and the demand for physical presence goes against thousands of years of emphasis of knowledge and reading beyond the evidence of the senses.

As to Morquendi, he updated once this August (which I didn’t see) but prior to that he hadn’t posted since September 2005. The only editorial policy with Kottu is ‘don’t break Kottu’. I think it’s listed on the about page. One bad feed can clog up Kottu altogether so I periodically look through them and desyndicate ones that haven’t updated in months. It’s purely a time calculation to minimize the strain on Kottu and the server. There are a lot of blogs on Kottu that I consider repugnant, but the decision to syndicate or not is purely technical.

 
Sophist
2006-10-01 13:34:43

Ashanthi your argument is the similar to the one I raised to Stopdakilling. Ghostwriter told me where to get off. I still maintain Stopdakillling’s argument was an immature one and thereby justified (albeit very slightly) my denigration of him as an expat. I take that back – but nevertheless still believe his argument is rubbish.

Your assertion (false) that Indi has never been where you would want him to go falls by the wayside, because we have, through discussion arrived at a consensus that detachment does not breed irrelevance. If it did, you – by your own argument – should not be posting here, there or anywhere.

krandor
2006-10-02 08:39:39

Ashanthi, you really need to get a grip, you’re building Indi into something he’s not – relevant in any way that matters. To a small coterie of bloggers he’s the driving moral and intellectual online force about the conflict but in the grand scheme of things he’s as irrelevant as you – or the peace protesters at Lipton circus – are. He’s a relentless self-publicist but to think that he’s a future leader of this country is so absurd as to show that you’ve lost all sense of reality. He may, eventually, blag his way into some advisory capacity (in government) on infotech but aside from that, I think Blacker hit it on the head with “You get to be a national leader by hanging around Barefoot?” This is a country where the masses think Ranil is an overly westernised, liberal pansy for god’s sake. Far too many of your views are based, not just on kottu, but a segment within kottu, write.

Having said which, I suspect Sitting Nut is representative of the real life, English speaking, middle-classes – and you can make of that what you will.

David Blacker
2006-10-02 11:42:41

Sadly, you’re probably right on the Snut thing.

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savi3
2006-10-03 00:21:19

krandor are you an expat…? … as they say in colombo :)

 
2006-10-09 14:20:11

Sorry I’m about 2 weeks late in responding … but just quikly …

I guess you guys all know Indi my centre of the universe is Barefoot better than me. So I stand corrected, he’ll never amount to anything and he obviously has no leadership qualities.

So … the fact that he crapped on about Sri Lanka to the BBC means nothing.

However, equating a connection with the North/East as a result of being a VIP guest is hardly going to qualify Indi as someone who knows anything about the situation on the ground.

Look, don’t take me so personally. I’m sorry I giveyou griefall the time. We should all try and be a bit more constructive given how bad the situation is in Ceylon (Tsunami’s hit Ceylon too btw) and yes the situation is bad except at Barefoot.

I propose to turn over a new leaf and stop being harsh on Indi – how about that?

 
David Blacker
2006-10-09 18:47:37

While you’re about it, try actually checking up on the name of the country Barefoot (and Indi) is situated in.

 
ceylon
2006-10-09 20:41:40

david,
Ceylon is still the name of the island for many tamils

the republican constituion is illegal

and the tamils weren’t consulted on the name change or the constitution…

thus many tamils say they are from ceylon or the NorthEast of the island of SL

David Blacker
2006-10-10 14:47:55

Machang, the Burghers weren’t consulted either. In fact, most of us didn’t want independence, so should I consider ‘Ceylon’ still part of the British empire? I didn’t vote for Mahinda, so should I not consider him the prez? Please don’t be silly. It’s boring when people are silly (unless you are a really beautiful, sexy woman, then I’ll accept silly). Just because you were not consulted doesn’t change the fact.

 
 
2006-10-10 13:38:01

Thanks Ceylon – for explaining Ceylon to DB ex-soldier who writes books – I’m very impressed btw about the book writing skills but it does sound a little bit “Wilbur Smithish”. I might have to buy it, read it and spread the word – and maybe I will Mr Blacker, maybe I will, if you’re nice to me. I happen to know the owner of a very big book distributor this side of Barefoot (!).

Actually – pity none of us get on otherwise I could ask you to send it to me. Are you friends with Morq? If so – I’ll ask him. Still – given you are an ex-Soldier I suppose it is a little biased as Indi hinted.

Re the Ceylon thing, look again, let’s not start any sublime racist shit here. I know exactly where Indi lives and where Barefoot is and you know I do to David.

I sometimes say Celyon, sometimes Sri Lanka – sometimes SL… etc… it’s no big deal.

No need to get your knickers in a twist

David Blacker
2006-10-10 14:57:01

I must say I AM impressed by your ability to attempt a “Smithish” review of something you haven’t read yet. Please do buy it ( we don’t send free copies even if you do “happen to know the owner of a very big distributor this ide of Barefoot”) and read it, so that you actually know what you are talking about. I suggest you read up on some of the other topics you hold forth on. Hell, some people read up, and still don’t know what they’re talking about (Indi apparently “got lost” midway), so good luck with that.

There’s nothing racist about saying ‘Ceylon’ instead of Sri Lanka, it’s just indicative of a lack of connection to the real world. Writers are often accused of this. What’s your excuse?

David Blacker
2006-10-10 15:04:08

Sorry, Indi, just had to have a go!

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Polite Request
2006-10-10 15:47:54

David, since you ARE in Germany, and the transport cost is probably cheaper for you anyway, would you mind popping over to Ashanthi’s and giving her a spine-shattering fuck? I think she’s gagging for it, and I think she deserves it.

 
 
 
 
2006-10-10 20:37:11

Ah – see this why the people who watch and listen to th BBC need to read this blog …. it’s so ..;. hm … what shall I say, full of eloquence and rationale don’t you think.

DB – I shall never read your book unless you personally sign a copy for me, apologising for being a bit up yourself, mail it to Morq … C/o Barefoot and then he can send it to me.

As for me getting my facts right – come now, burgher or otherwise, you know it’s all about ones particular perspective. For example, aren’t we all bloody burghers anyway?

Feel free “to have a go” – it’s no skin of my nose and as always very revealing to all those who might happen to stray towards this blog.

David Blacker
2006-10-10 21:50:44

” I shall never read your book ”

I can live with that, babe.

“mail it to Morq … C/o Barefoot”

But if I address it ‘Colombo, Ceylon’ you’ll never get it.

“aren’t we all bloody burghers anyway? ”

I know many Sri Lankans WISH they were Burghers, but wishing can’t make it so. Not anymore than wishing SL was Ceylon will make it so. Though I will concede that most SL bloodlines have had a Burgher get in there somewhere in history.

 
 
2006-10-10 23:07:45

Thanks for getting the frustrated groupie off my case. I think she’s impressed by your book.

 
Sophist
2006-10-10 23:39:25

And so she should be. A fuck load has happened and I’m still midway. Good read Blacker. I find the way you describe the amount of bullet holes in the dead bodies slightly disturbing though.

On the subject of Burghers, I think when the film comes out I should play Dayan and Tanya should play Sandra. No?

David Blacker
2006-10-11 13:14:17

Tanya says you’ll have to lose the tie for a start.

Sophist
2006-10-11 14:31:33

I’ll lose the tie and a few pounds into the bargain. Besides, I can fire a weapon and Denzel Washington might be a bit overbudget for your first screen play.

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David Blacker
2006-10-11 14:36:34

Tell you what, I’ll smear shoe polish on and play Dayan (was reserving that role for myself, as you can imagine), you slam on the Fair & Lovely and play Christofelsz. Tanya’s probably gonna come on and kick both our butts anyway. Or demand to play Devini’s role.

Sophist
2006-10-11 15:44:18

Hmmm….no action then. Perhaps I could do a cameo as Mc Edwards if you have someone suitably able playing Fenster’s wife.

 
David Blacker
2006-10-11 16:21:33

Maybe you could convince Ashanthi to take that role. Seems like it’d suit her.

 
 
 
 
 
2006-10-11 08:39:52

DB – let’s keep this strictly bloggerish – no need to bebe me and no need for over familiarity either. Cheeky sod.

Look – don’t be a goose – send me a copy with an real explanation as to why you wrote the book. I’m sure you could get it to Morq if you really wanted to. In the end all perspectives are valid. War, hatred and predjudice breaks out when people don’t value other peoples background. I do value yours even if I am being pre-juedgemental – after all everyone can change thier mind and your book is in the genre of fiction with your personal experience of facts thrown in. You are certainly in more of a position to talk about the war in SL than any of the other bloggers apar from Morq. So hat of to you. Whether your book is balanced or not is for me to determine if you send me the book and a much larger literary public – if you so choose. It’s up to you.

Re the Burgher wish – what are you on about now? Is this another sublime little racist inuendo. Ah of course, I remember, most Burghers are supposed to be “fair” and were favoured by our colonial masters – yes sure. They also got to run away from ole Serendip when the Bandaranikes went all socialist and nathionist back in the 70′s quite easily back in those days.

Geeish DB, how old are you. I don’t think Sinhalese, Tamil (Hindu, Muslim or otherwise) would actively try and be Burgher anymore. Those days are long gone and you know it.

I think everyone in SL has a disctinct defined identiy. I think the world also understands how complex SL is and this largely due to the Tsunami. I think this is one of our greatest assests.

So no-ones interested in being Burgher David. In the long run lets hope that more people are interested in justice, peace and a little less superiority of one race over another. Burgher or otherwise. What we need now is for someone to pull everyone together. If we ever find a leader/group/movement who can do this, Sri Lanka will truly be an amazing country and there will be no holding us back.

However, in the meantime what needs to stop is people having delusions of granduer – Indi the worst offender, a resounding complaint we get about him. Probably just the booze and pot talking but if we go back to my original comment on this post I feel quite justified objecting to him speaking to the BBC re SL blogging and felt he should have handed over to Morq.

It was only an objection and that’s what the blog’s all about. I was grumpy about it but – hey we move on.

Or … can we …

David Blacker
2006-10-11 13:11:26

Ashanthi, seriosly, if you want a copy, buy it. My publisher doesn’t send free copies. If you want to know why I wrote it, there’s an interview on Moju, plus a review. There are lots more out there, and there’s an interview by ol’ Sophist coming out in LT. The book’s only Rs890, which is cheaper than lunch at Barefoot, so go for it.

 
 
2006-10-11 15:56:43

Hey David, for what it’s worth, I think it’s an excellent read. Must thank that short fart, for the review on Moju, next time I meet him.

David Blacker
2006-10-11 16:23:32

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

 
 
2006-10-11 16:35:23

Well – I don’t know how I’m supposed to buy it over here !!

If it’s only Rs 890, I don’t see why you can’t buy it for me and say you’re sorry etc … but alright then, I’ll talk to Morq and see if he’ll send me a copy.

As for the interview with Sophist – hmmm, I’ll think about reading anymore that goose has to say than I have to put up with on this blog.

Anyway – good luck with the book and tell your publisher not to be so stingy – you never know who might pick up the book and run with it.

David Blacker
2006-10-11 16:48:28

“Well – I don’t know how I’m supposed to buy it over here !!”

You mean over in Ceylon? Why don’t you talk to your “owner of a very big book distributor this side of Barefoot”? He’s probably got my book on shelf.

“you never know who might pick up the book and run with it”

I believe a good CCTV system can prevent this.

 
 
Curious Yellow
2006-10-11 18:48:53

I would like to coin the term “blogoff” in order to describe the arguments people have in the comments section of their blogs.

Wikipedia fame here I come!

Blogoff people, remember, you heard it here first!

 
2006-10-11 19:45:47

DB – don’t be dense, another continent is what I meant when I said the other side of Barefoot. Madre de dios – you are being silly now.

I can see why you kept demanding I go and buy it – well it would cost be Rs.890 as well as an airplane ticket and sorry, no can do, not even for you :-)

 
David Blacker
2006-10-11 21:43:30

OK, Ashanthi. This is going far enough. People are starting to talk. Order the book from http://www.ph-books.com cos it ain’t coming free. I take back the ‘Babe’ part back.

 
Tanya Jansz
2006-10-11 22:58:35

Ashanthi, Here’s the deal. Some burghers are still fair! And judging from what Sophist said, they are still favoured over others!
Thanks for the brilliant idea, Sophist! Not really interestd in playing any character. And David, I’ll do more than kick your butt for that!

David Blacker
2006-10-11 23:48:14

Anytime, sweets, anytime.

 
 
2006-11-30 18:46:43

Thanks Nick, it helps when you’re a web developer by trade ;)

 
dhammika dharmawardhane
2007-04-29 05:44:59

david, why bother?
they don’t get it anyway.
not the book, i love the read.
just everything. i am talking about the total ceylon and tamil thing. it’s just no use, so therefore, just leave it.
finally the bare truth is that sri lanka is the only country we have, thats it.
if we ever give the tamil people in sri lanka a seperate country by dividing sri lanka, all what will happen is the 50million tamils in tamil nadu will come over and take over their lives. think about it.

 
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