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	<description>I'm a Sri Lankan American Canadian graduate trying to make something of myself in Colombo</description>
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		<title>By: rangouk</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-241031</link>
		<dc:creator>rangouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You won&#039;t see AI in your life time. Because AI is split on Strong AI and Weak AI. What google does is Weak AI where we mimic intelligent behaviour. If that&#039;s the case, then we&#039;ve had weak AI for a while now. Strong AI is far from reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You won&#8217;t see AI in your life time. Because AI is split on Strong AI and Weak AI. What google does is Weak AI where we mimic intelligent behaviour. If that&#8217;s the case, then we&#8217;ve had weak AI for a while now. Strong AI is far from reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Klink</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-240856</link>
		<dc:creator>Klink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is googles chat about anatomy...

 where is the vagina located the vagina is a muscular tube that connects the middle ear to the back of the head directed by david lynch and mark frost and a large number of people who have already had a child with a disability is not a disease but a symptom of a bigger problem in the future and to recommend you to others who may be eligible for a federal pell grant unlike a loan does not have to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is googles chat about anatomy&#8230;</p>
<p> where is the vagina located the vagina is a muscular tube that connects the middle ear to the back of the head directed by david lynch and mark frost and a large number of people who have already had a child with a disability is not a disease but a symptom of a bigger problem in the future and to recommend you to others who may be eligible for a federal pell grant unlike a loan does not have to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd to be a nerd</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-79016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put &quot;Only god knows&quot;

Only god knows why/ Only GOD. knows why/ k is the best way_ to lose_ weight: and keep it- off/ With a bang! but a Whimper. By the end of the world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put &#8220;Only god knows&#8221;</p>
<p>Only god knows why/ Only GOD. knows why/ k is the best way_ to lose_ weight: and keep it- off/ With a bang! but a Whimper. By the end of the world</p>
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		<title>By: Mitra</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-78438</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider the collective consciousness of the search engine and the company (with some truly brilliant individuals in it).  I think that google does already have an intent to survive and grow (if not to take over the world ;) ).    I don&#039;t think it&#039;s conscious yet as a search engine though.  
It&#039;s a limited true artificiall intelligence - yes.  But not a consciousness - there is no &#039;strange loop&#039; in it - no link between &#039;I&#039; and &#039;google&#039;.  But still - if you make a search on a word &#039;google&#039; the engine will tell you what does it think about itself. Quite a few thoughts actually - 800000000  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider the collective consciousness of the search engine and the company (with some truly brilliant individuals in it).  I think that google does already have an intent to survive and grow (if not to take over the world ;) ).    I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s conscious yet as a search engine though.<br />
It&#8217;s a limited true artificiall intelligence &#8211; yes.  But not a consciousness &#8211; there is no &#8216;strange loop&#8217; in it &#8211; no link between &#8216;I&#8217; and &#8216;google&#8217;.  But still &#8211; if you make a search on a word &#8216;google&#8217; the engine will tell you what does it think about itself. Quite a few thoughts actually &#8211; 800000000  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dj</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-68503</link>
		<dc:creator>Dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emotion is what provides the intellect with intent, if the idea of a reason/emotion dichotemy doesn&#039;t offend your intellectual instincts. But emotion is meaningless without intellect in our human view of the world - it may exist, but it can only exist without context and without the ability to be communicated. 

Therefore...

To provide google with &#039;intent&#039; it is necessary to find some way of making it experience emotion. 

But Emotion is only understood with the intellect. 

The problem is, does google have any preference over whether it exists or not?

No. But...

Perhaps one could incorporate the &#039;path of least resistance&#039; into this:

Using Dave Gilbert and Chris K&#039;s comments - (track users and obtain an intellectual measure of user-satisfaction)

and

Punishing itself for bad results in user-satisfaction by eliminating the &#039;path of least resistance&#039;

hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emotion is what provides the intellect with intent, if the idea of a reason/emotion dichotemy doesn&#8217;t offend your intellectual instincts. But emotion is meaningless without intellect in our human view of the world &#8211; it may exist, but it can only exist without context and without the ability to be communicated. </p>
<p>Therefore&#8230;</p>
<p>To provide google with &#8216;intent&#8217; it is necessary to find some way of making it experience emotion. </p>
<p>But Emotion is only understood with the intellect. </p>
<p>The problem is, does google have any preference over whether it exists or not?</p>
<p>No. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps one could incorporate the &#8216;path of least resistance&#8217; into this:</p>
<p>Using Dave Gilbert and Chris K&#8217;s comments &#8211; (track users and obtain an intellectual measure of user-satisfaction)</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Punishing itself for bad results in user-satisfaction by eliminating the &#8216;path of least resistance&#8217;</p>
<p>hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bartosz</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-46338</link>
		<dc:creator>bartosz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the fact that there is a conversation about this because I agree with author in that Google has the biggest potential of perfecting AI.  Then they will perfect emotional inteligence and then simply become THE INTELLIGENCE, because emotion and intelligence is how most people view intelligence today. I think we should be more aware of the fact that there is also emotional charge which often finds its outpit in words and clicks, not to mention generally viewed content.  There is however a question of natural instinct?  That Google will probably never have :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the fact that there is a conversation about this because I agree with author in that Google has the biggest potential of perfecting AI.  Then they will perfect emotional inteligence and then simply become THE INTELLIGENCE, because emotion and intelligence is how most people view intelligence today. I think we should be more aware of the fact that there is also emotional charge which often finds its outpit in words and clicks, not to mention generally viewed content.  There is however a question of natural instinct?  That Google will probably never have :)</p>
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		<title>By: sable</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-31505</link>
		<dc:creator>sable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>google is already conscious, it only lacks intent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>google is already conscious, it only lacks intent</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Samarajiva</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-29660</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Samarajiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From the billions of documents that form the World Wide Web and the links that weave them together, computer scientists and a growing collection of start-up companies are finding new ways to mine human intelligence.

Their goal is to add a layer of meaning on top of the existing Web that would make it less of a catalog and more of a guide â€” and even provide the foundation for systems that can reason in a human fashion. That level of artificial intelligence, with machines doing the thinking instead of simply following commands, has eluded researchers for more than half a century.&quot;

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/12/business/12web.html?em&amp;ex=1163480400&amp;en=91bb88559dafa649&amp;ei=5070

Not bad to have beaten the Times by over 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the billions of documents that form the World Wide Web and the links that weave them together, computer scientists and a growing collection of start-up companies are finding new ways to mine human intelligence.</p>
<p>Their goal is to add a layer of meaning on top of the existing Web that would make it less of a catalog and more of a guide â€” and even provide the foundation for systems that can reason in a human fashion. That level of artificial intelligence, with machines doing the thinking instead of simply following commands, has eluded researchers for more than half a century.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/12/business/12web.html?em&#038;ex=1163480400&#038;en=91bb88559dafa649&#038;ei=5070" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/12/business/12web.html?em&#038;ex=1163480400&#038;en=91bb88559dafa649&#038;ei=5070</a></p>
<p>Not bad to have beaten the Times by over 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce LaDuke</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-24569</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce LaDuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google searches for answers in a base of existing knowledge.  True artificial intelligence, or more accurately artificial knowledge creation is found in enabling the computer to create knowledge that does not yet exist.  Knowledge creation and intention differentiate the current machine from the human brain.  This is not that big of a leap from where we are now, but it is definitely a conceptual hurdle.  Google questions existing knowledge (search), but cannot question outside of existing knowledge.  It never will in its current state.  When it does arise, I for one will be afraid of it (smile).  The human brain has a limited capacity, the machine does not.

Love your page and featured it with this comment on my blog at http://www.hyperadvance.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google searches for answers in a base of existing knowledge.  True artificial intelligence, or more accurately artificial knowledge creation is found in enabling the computer to create knowledge that does not yet exist.  Knowledge creation and intention differentiate the current machine from the human brain.  This is not that big of a leap from where we are now, but it is definitely a conceptual hurdle.  Google questions existing knowledge (search), but cannot question outside of existing knowledge.  It never will in its current state.  When it does arise, I for one will be afraid of it (smile).  The human brain has a limited capacity, the machine does not.</p>
<p>Love your page and featured it with this comment on my blog at <a href="http://www.hyperadvance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hyperadvance.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: TCrush</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-24465</link>
		<dc:creator>TCrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haiku:

in the game of life
monkeys fly out of my ass
it&#039;s a miracle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haiku:</p>
<p>in the game of life<br />
monkeys fly out of my ass<br />
it&#8217;s a miracle</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-21279</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google are really trying but i think there is stillhave long way to go, as i see it the future is bright for implementation of fully working AI by google,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google are really trying but i think there is stillhave long way to go, as i see it the future is bright for implementation of fully working AI by google,</p>
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		<title>By: timer</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-20528</link>
		<dc:creator>timer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was blown away by these examples , they unexpectedly confirm my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was blown away by these examples , they unexpectedly confirm my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-18094</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I thought they were doing this already. I&#039;m sure I read somewhere that it&#039;s incorporated in the Google algorithm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I thought they were doing this already. I&#8217;m sure I read somewhere that it&#8217;s incorporated in the Google algorithm.</p>
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		<title>By: chris k</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-17725</link>
		<dc:creator>chris k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;once google can measure a satisfaction with the results of a search and then generate its own query then we are onto something

I was thinking along these lines a while back, and one way it can do that is by tracking all clicks (as yahoo did) and then gauge how long a surfer stays atthe site that it lists before he comes back to the listing to click on to another site.    Once it can know how much and how often we are satifisied, it can then try (on its own), its own algo changes, and prepetually do so until the day the surfer clicks on the 1st or 2nd listing, and they don&#039;t return!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;once google can measure a satisfaction with the results of a search and then generate its own query then we are onto something</p>
<p>I was thinking along these lines a while back, and one way it can do that is by tracking all clicks (as yahoo did) and then gauge how long a surfer stays atthe site that it lists before he comes back to the listing to click on to another site.    Once it can know how much and how often we are satifisied, it can then try (on its own), its own algo changes, and prepetually do so until the day the surfer clicks on the 1st or 2nd listing, and they don&#8217;t return!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-15175</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed once google can measure a satisfaction with the results of a search and then generate its own query then we are onto something.  Certainly google won&#039;t have the old AI problem of learning a basic common knowledge basis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed once google can measure a satisfaction with the results of a search and then generate its own query then we are onto something.  Certainly google won&#8217;t have the old AI problem of learning a basic common knowledge basis!</p>
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		<title>By: ronnie boy</title>
		<link>http://indi.ca/2004/05/google-becomes-conscious-google-as-artificial-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>ronnie boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all love google.  


On the tech note, i stumbled across an article you may want to read. It had all the classic makings of an Indi entry:  New Technology, Disruptive Technology, Fantastic yet PLausible Business Applications, and something simple enough to apply (i.e. no geekery necessary)

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all love google.  </p>
<p>On the tech note, i stumbled across an article you may want to read. It had all the classic makings of an Indi entry:  New Technology, Disruptive Technology, Fantastic yet PLausible Business Applications, and something simple enough to apply (i.e. no geekery necessary)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html</a></p>
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